MK Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

[Tha Realest]

I guess I'm wondering why you're surprised that people on a discussion forum are reacting to your complaint about the loss of mature trees with explanations of why that is normal, how it will likely be mitigated in the final product using past examples, etc. I suppose you just wanted to blog about temporary tree loss?

The whole point of the natural parks was the conservation of the existing natural resources. And this attraction area, which is purportedly supposed to honor that legacy, is about to scrape away - huge swath of the existing trees and vegetation in favor of a bunch of rock work and a few trees.

 

[Chi84]

The whole point of the natural parks was the conservation of the existing natural resources. And this attraction area, which is purportedly supposed to honor that legacy, is about to scrape away - huge swath of the existing trees and vegetation in favor of a bunch of rock work and a few trees.

Yes, because WDW is a theme park not a real natural park. They honor by portraying natural parks, not becoming one.

 

[mickEblu]

But you're talking about a theme park. More trees and more water make a great arboretum but that's not what Disney built.

Throw in an island and a riverboat and then you would really have something.

 

[mickEblu]

The whole point of the natural parks was the conservation of the existing natural resources. And this attraction area, which is purportedly supposed to honor that legacy, is about to scrape away - huge swath of the existing trees and vegetation in favor of a bunch of rock work and a few trees.

And when it comes to place making the value of trees and water cannot be understated. They are real. But these same people obviously would have agreed with us about 13 months ago but when Disney announces something they of course start to reinvent themselves to align.

 

[AidenRodriguez731]

The whole point of the natural parks was the conservation of the existing natural resources. And this attraction area, which is purportedly supposed to honor that legacy, is about to scrape away - huge swath of the existing trees and vegetation in favor of a bunch of rock work and a few trees.

So we should just fill in the river and just plant more trees because National Park...
I know the Mad Hatter is common this time of year but come on.

 

[Chi84]

Throw in an island and a riverboat and then you would really have something.

They had it but it wore out its welcome with the people who decide those things.

 

[AidenRodriguez731]

Replacing attractions and tearing out landscaping that is utterly integral to storytelling and placemaking are not the only options. WDW is huge and the parks have copious room for expansion. In fact, WDW is the only Disney resort that almost always loses integral elements to gain attractions even though it is the one Disney resort where this is least defensible.

I have a half and half perspective on this where I think we could see eye to eye on this. So on one hand, I never found the ROA/TSI integral to the storytelling. It can look nice but it's nothing special to me perhaps because I live by a somewhat similar and much bigger river that looks better (to me, in my opinion) On the other hand, I do think that Disney should have went for their expansion plots before this (I still genuinely would have taken it out in the next 10 or so years but not before the Adventureland + Frontierland + Tomorrowland plots were used.) I also do not think that this theme is the best fit for the area and would have preferred a different storyline for a similar ride (personally I think the Country Bear 500 would have been a great fit.)

 

[Disstevefan1]

What I meant is, if they need to cut down trees to clear space for whatever they just do it.
It’s a business decision. Selling LLs is more important than saving a tree. It’s just business.

 

[Jedi14]

Incorrect. What I meant is, if they need to cut down trees to clear space for whatever they just do it.
It’s a business decision. Selling LLs is more important than saving a tree. It’s just business.

They would have removed trees even if they used a different plot.

 

[Brer Panther]

What about the rocks, the plants, just take a look at the fancy ants!!

Sorry, the ants have already been kicked out of Animal Kingdom.

 

[flynnibus]

It’ll be fine. The trees will be okay.

Didn't you know some people named trees on the island and adopted them like pets?

 

[Chi84]

Didn't you know some people named trees on the island and adopted them like pets?

I learn something new every day here.

 

[K&KDizFreaks]

Was there recently, the river and island seem like a large space due the brilliant design, but in reality I cant see how a substantial four wheeler ride through a mountainous area is going to fit in that space. It is either going to be a small dressed up autotopia, or a horrible, visually obtrusive, misshaped wall of concrete that dominates everything that surrounds it.

 

[Disstevefan1]

They would have removed trees even if they used a different plot.

I agree. Business is business. Trees are less important to TWDC and there are plenty of them on WDW land.

 

[JohnD]

I think it’s pretty clear whether a few are replanted or not that a ton of mature trees will be lost.

I guess they shouldn't have built MK then.

 

[JohnD]

I agree. Business is business. Trees are less important to TWDC and there are plenty of them on WDW land.

That's why there is zoning and permitting. Some areas are zoned for entertainment. Others for preservation. Sometimes there is a requirement that where a certain percentage of forestry is removed, an approximate percentage is planted/replanted elsewhere.

 

[Disstevefan1]

That's why there is zoning and permitting. Some areas are zoned for entertainment. Others for preservation. Sometimes there is a requirement that where a certain percentage of forestry is removed, an approximate percentage is planted/replanted elsewhere.

One thing we can agree on is that WDW is really good at creating lay down yards and new office space for their Imagineers.

I hope its all worth the effort. Only time will tell.

 

[jah4955]

One thing we can agree on is that WDW is really good at creating lay down yards and new office space for their Imagineers.

I hope its all worth the effort. Only time will tell.

What's confused me since the paperwork was filed was why SO MUCH land needed to be cleared for lay down yards? I realize there's no turning back, but if you look at the cleared land it seems more than half the acreage of the Magic Kingdom itself...but all towards the update of a footprint the size of RoA?

 

[TheMaxRebo]

What's confused me since the paperwork was filed was why SO MUCH land needed to be cleared for lay down yards? I realize there's no turning back, but if you look at the cleared land it seems more than half the acreage of the Magic Kingdom itself...but all towards the update of a footprint the size of RoA?

Looks like at least part of this is for pretty permanent building and a large parking lot for Imagineering and other workers - probably to be a centralized location for this wok and other projects around property but so on site together ... So for more than *just* the ROA work

 

[Disstevefan1]

What's confused me since the paperwork was filed was why SO MUCH land needed to be cleared for lay down yards? I realize there's no turning back, but if you look at the cleared land it seems more than half the acreage of the Magic Kingdom itself...but all towards the update of a footprint the size of RoA?

I have given up trying to apply logic to anything Disney does.

As a guess, maybe they need the space to work now and maybe in 3 to 5 years when the work is over maybe they can replant in these areas?