DHS Monster Inc Land Coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios

mattpeto

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I personally enjoyed the parking lot and thought it was pleasant to look at from Google Maps.

Honestly, people can't cope with losing Muppets. It's made them mad.

Seriously, makes me so sad. Losing Lot spaces.

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J4546

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this ride looks like it will be really big and im all for it. I love Muppets but this Monsters Land imo is a huge upgrade. Im glad they are keeping the Muppets IP and retheming the aerosmith coaster as well, i just hope they spruce that entire area up a bit, and maybe in the future they will rebuild Muppets 3D in the Villains show spot.
 

AidenRodriguez731

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I personally enjoyed the parking lot and thought it was pleasant to look at from Google Maps.

Honestly, people can't cope with losing Muppets. It's made them mad.
The parking lot is an opening day attraction and cools down the park, they could have built a bridge OVER the parking lot because we do have the "the blessing of size." and should not replace anything ever.

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I've drawn a simple diagram of where this new building COULD be (with walkway to the new area)
 

BrianLo

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Josh: “wait… what if a warehouse WAS the theme!”

Minions: “oh yes Mr. Josh! Brilliant! Your best idea yet sir!”

We start to lose the audience when we make silly criticisms not based in reality. There are many things we can criticize Josh for. The guy clearly did not come up with this concept that clearly predates his tenure internally by a decade. He pulled it off a shelf.

The only reason people are whining about it is over the Muppets. Criticize him for that decision.
 

TrainsOfDisney

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Casper Gutman

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Waste of space? We lost cast parking spots for this... it's a great use of space!
We lost the Muppets.

Roller coasters, especially the way modern Disney builds them, are tremendously inefficient uses of valuable real estate. Look at Slinky, perhaps the biggest reason that TSL is the most inefficiently designed land in Orlando. Monsters takes up huge chunk of real estate that could have been used for multiple more interesting projects that might provide a more substantial experience and better represent their IP.
 

Casper Gutman

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Come on @TrainsOfDisney, you honestly think this is a terrible idea?

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What about those images is exciting? The whole point is that they are banal industrial settings filled by fantastical characters. That’s the point of the IP!

It would be like taking a franchise like Star Wars full of incredible aliens and otherworldly settings and setting a ride on a militarized, intentionally austere battleship featuring only human characters.

Wait…
 

ChewbaccaYourMum

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We lost the Muppets.

Roller coasters, especially the way modern Disney builds them, are tremendously inefficient uses of valuable real estate. Look at Slinky, perhaps the biggest reason that TSL is the most inefficiently designed land in Orlando. Monsters takes up huge chunk of real estate that could have been used for multiple more interesting projects that might provide a more substantial experience and better represent their IP.
In your opinion. In mine and many others, there have already been different types of dark rides for this particular IP and what we still want out of this is a Door Coaster.

Also, I love Muppet*Vision 3D, but can also understand it's on the older side and can be ok with them deciding it's time to move on from it. Hypothetically---in your mind--- if now is not a good enough time to say goodbye to it, then when eventually would that have been? Or do you hold Muppet*Vision in the same realm of Pirates, Haunted etc. etc. and it should have stayed forever?
 

AidenRodriguez731

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We lost the Muppets.

Roller coasters, especially the way modern Disney builds them, are tremendously inefficient uses of valuable real estate. Look at Slinky, perhaps the biggest reason that TSL is the most inefficiently designed land in Orlando. Monsters takes up huge chunk of real estate that could have been used for multiple more interesting projects that might provide a more substantial experience and better represent their IP.
I cannot think of much to better represent the monsters IP over the classic door coaster. It is such a fun looking and quintessential scene in that movie during the climax of the plot.

Slinky dog was poorly planned, for the most part in that I agree. I love slinky dog though. There are also plenty of Disney coasters that are well planned out and take up a very reasonable amount of space. Plus I do think that Disney wants HS to be their more thrilling “adult/teen park” with still quite a lot of things for kids to do. It makes total sense to me to put the door coaster here. I’m also not going to be crying about “space use” when HS has a decent amount of space overall. The way they built this allows for a third attraction in Monsters, still allows for the GE third attraction, and/or keeps over the massive area behind AC for later expansion while possibly giving us a full on muppet mini land which Muppet Courtyard wasn’t going to be (let’s just be honest on that, it’s far easier to get the money clearance to Retheme an existing ride with an expiring contract than to get the budget for a hypothetical “Muppets GMR” despite how many of us would love it
 

Casper Gutman

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In your opinion. In mine and many others, there have already been different types of dark rides for this particular IP and what we still want out of this is a Door Coaster.

Also, I love Muppet*Vision 3D, but can also understand it's on the older side and can be ok with them deciding it's time to move on from it. Hypothetically---in your mind--- if now is not a good enough time to say goodbye to it, then when eventually would that have been? Or do you hold Muppet*Vision in the same realm of Pirates, Haunted etc. etc. and it should have stayed forever?
The time to remove Muppets is when the park is out of space, doesn’t need family attractions or capacity, and Imagineering has a recent track record that gives some hope that the replacement will be of superior or at least equal quality.
 

AidenRodriguez731

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What about those images is exciting? The whole point is that they are banal industrial settings filled by fantastical characters. That’s the point of the IP!

It would be like taking a franchise like Star Wars full of incredible aliens and otherworldly settings and setting a ride on a militarized, intentionally austere battleship featuring only human characters.

Wait…
It’s amazing how we’re fighting with “that’s the point of the IP” and “an attraction that better represents the IP” mere minutes apart. Goal posts must have hitched a ride on the Excelsior 😉
 

Casper Gutman

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We start to lose the audience when we make silly criticisms not based in reality. There are many things we can criticize Josh for. The guy clearly did not come up with this concept that clearly predates his tenure internally by a decade. He pulled it off a shelf.

The only reason people are whining about it is over the Muppets. Criticize him for that decision.
This isn’t true. Disney has very recently added a large number of coasters which offer brief experiences with lackluster theming that don’t accommodate many guests. Frankly, they’re very boring and not very Disney. This string of coasters isn’t a coincidence- it springs from philosophical and systemic changes at Disney.

Losing Muppets is part of the problem, but if the replacement was interesting I’d be a LOT less upset. Losing a quintessentially classic Disney attraction for another warehouse coaster is awful.
 

mattpeto

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What about those images is exciting? The whole point is that they are banal industrial settings filled by fantastical characters. That’s the point of the IP!

It would be like taking a franchise like Star Wars full of incredible aliens and otherworldly settings and setting a ride on a militarized, intentionally austere battleship featuring only human characters.

Wait…
Maybe I'm a simple man, but I'd like to walkthrough that setting and warehouse. I also like what they did with Rise.

Please tell us which type of land you'd prefer them to create.
 

BrianLo

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This isn’t true. Disney has very recently added a large number of coasters which offer brief experiences with lackluster theming that don’t accommodate many guests. Frankly, they’re very boring and not very Disney. This string of coasters isn’t a coincidence- it springs from philosophical and systemic changes at Disney.

Losing Muppets is part of the problem, but if the replacement was interesting I’d be a LOT less upset. Losing a quintessentially classic Disney attraction for another warehouse coaster is awful.

What’s not true? This project has almost happened several times. It was fully and completely developed before Josh. For DCA and DHS.

He pulled it off the shelf, he didn’t come up with it.

It was his decision to pull it off the shelf and I criticized that along with you from the get go. It was an odd menu choice for DHS’s need. But it was never dreamt up by Josh as that poster implied.
 

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