Walt Disney – A Magical Life

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See, that makes sense if you don't like his voice/think he's a good narrator, thanks. I agree he's not the person I think of for narrating a show about Walt Disney's life. The only reason I asked was that I was only seeing people saying it was about his ego and him as a person, and it felt more like they were hating on him as being a CEO that contributed to the show rather than his actual contribution and if it fitted.
It's both.
 

Gusey

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Well that’s also true and part of the issue. He and the people around him should have known better and used an appropriate narrator. But it appears that he let his ego get in the way of that.
I have just realised that the original One Man's Dream was narrated by Eisner until he retired, then he was replaced by Julie Andrews. I wonder if the same things were being said about Eisner back then. Hopefully a similar situation will happen once Iger retires 🤣
 

Phroobar

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Those are some furry caterpillars on his face. Are those eyes shining in the dark? The head is completely the wrong shape. The voice is like the six iteration of Kermit the Frog. It's no where near the original. Why couldn't they have spliced together his actual speeches instead?
 

Phroobar

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@TP2000 would say "Where's Rich Little when you need him?"

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Comped

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Considering who ultimately owns MT (the same family who own Lego), kind of poetic that their Orlando location would have such respect for Walt considering Disney licensing saved Lego.

Also, other sites and creators are reporting that they spoke with imagineers who said AI was not used on Walt's voice. At least one was told that "normalization" was used to make clips of Walt speaking into a cohesive speech, but both claims remain only lightly substantiated.
 

flynnibus

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Also, other sites and creators are reporting that they spoke with imagineers who said AI was not used on Walt's voice. At least one was told that "normalization" was used to make clips of Walt speaking into a cohesive speech, but both claims remain only lightly substantiated.
"AI was not used on.." is a misnomer in itself. What is material is if they synthesized his voice to create new dialogue or performances -- to which the company has repeated said they have not.

Any original audio is going to be heavily processed if it is going to be used with lots of other non-uniform clips. From levels, to clean-up, to isolation, to equalization... all of these things are going to be done with heavy signal processing that many tools will use elements of machine learning and manipulation to achieve. Doesn't matter what it is.. you're not going to take 1950s television recordings and play them raw through a modern day, multi-channel solid state theater presentation.

The challenge is how well the produced output will fit and sound the most natural to the application.

I think most are flipping out over social media clips which in themselves are produced and not usually a good representation of the theater performance.
 

brb1006

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LOL wait, Bob Igers lines are just Julie Andrew’s re-recorded lines from One Man’s Dream? You have to be kidding me. And they thought this was a good idea to replace Julie Andrew’s voice with Bob Igers?

Boggles the mind. The ego on that guy. For all we know, it was what made him sign off on it.
Julie Andrew's narration in One Man's Dream (and the Share A Dream Come True Parade) actually felt personal and heartfelt when reminiscing about Walt.


Iger re-recording Andrew's lines doesn't capture the same sentimentality as she did. Especially since unlike Andrews, Iger never had a personal relationship with Walt. Just look at this cute behind-the-scene photo Julie Andrews and Walt did during production of Mary Poppins.
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Heck, Iger was 15 years old by the time Walt died in December 1966.
 
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brb1006

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If you want to skip Iger in that clip, jump to 1:33.
I might regret asking this, but what's the big issue with Iger narrating? Does he introduce himself as Bob Iger at the start of the show (if he did and keep comparing himself to Walt Disney, then I could see the isssue) or is he just an unnamed narrator for the show? I know the posters for the who don't advertise Iger and unless I was on these boards, I would not have known it was the current CEO of the company. Ideally Julie Andrews would have reprised her role as it is an updated One Man's Dream followed by the animatronic, but clearly she was either too busy or didn't want to return to narrate another show at a Disney Park
He re-recorded some of Julie Andrews lines from One Man's Dream.
 

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Julie Andrew's narration in One Man's Dream (and the Share A Dream Come True Parade) actually felt personal and heartfelt when reminiscing about Walt.


Iger re-recording Andrew's lines doesn't capture the same sentimentality as she did. Especially since unlike Andrews, Iger never had a personal relationship with Walt. Just like at this cute behind-the-scene photo Julie Andrews and Walt did during production of Mary Poppins.
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Heck, Iger was 15 years old by the time Walt died in December 1966.

Maybe in the 7 years time they tried to perfect this thing they reached out to Dame Julie Andrews for new recordings and she got one look at the AA and said, "Pass! Walt would be rolling in his grave. Practically perfect, my posterior!" or something there of. I might be paraphrasing.
 

flynnibus

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You see no value in listening to a perspective unless it’s shared by someone on this forum?
It's a discussion forum.

If you wanted to discuss something they brought up or were using it as a cite, then I would be inclined to look at your cite. The video is part of the supporting material or notion being brought to the discussion.

But if you just want to proxy for someone who isn't here - no I have no interest in talking about someone else's opinion who isn't actually in the discussion being had. I have no interest in rando's opinion. If rando is here and wants to share their opinion, that's different and why we are here.

Otherwise you're just feeding clicking to content providers on the back of this forum. Which isn't good net etiquette.
 

Comped

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Another video showing the full experience

Pretty good selection of folks who knew Walt - some of whom (like Tony Baxter) I never knew met him (Kevin Rafferty is the only one I can't say definitively off the top of my head). This was the part of the show I was most interested in beyond the AA, because despite it being "just" a pre-show, it would show a little more personality and insight into the though process behind the attraction than the film (or even the AA). Of course the lobby itself is wonderful (and I wish we had anything close in Orlando - One Man's Dream's exhibition isn't as good of a collection by far), but that film is very interesting.
 

Stripes

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It's a discussion forum.

If you wanted to discuss something they brought up or were using it as a cite, then I would be inclined to look at your cite. The video is part of the supporting material or notion being brought to the discussion.

But if you just want to proxy for someone who isn't here - no I have no interest in talking about someone else's opinion who isn't actually in the discussion being had. I have no interest in rando's opinion. If rando is here and wants to share their opinion, that's different and why we are here.

Otherwise you're just feeding clicking to content providers on the back of this forum. Which isn't good net etiquette.
Honestly, I shared the video simply to highlight a review from someone that has seen the show in-person.

I don’t have much to say about the review because I haven’t seen the show in-person yet.

I shared it with the thread because if I was participating in the thread and hadn’t discovered the review, I would’ve been interested in giving it a watch.

As a fellow premium member, I strongly believe that restricting posts on the forum to exclude third-party content creators would severely harm the quality of this site as a source of theme park news.
 

flynnibus

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As a fellow premium member, I strongly believe that restricting posts on the forum to exclude third-party content creators would severely harm the quality of this site as a source of theme park news.
I strongly believe you should re-read what I wrote - as I did not say to exclude third-party content creators.
 

mickEblu

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Honestly, I shared the video simply to highlight a review from someone that has seen the show in-person.

I don’t have much to say about the review because I haven’t seen the show in-person yet.

I shared it with the thread because if I was participating in the thread and hadn’t discovered the review, I would’ve been interested in giving it a watch.

As a fellow premium member, I strongly believe that restricting posts on the forum to exclude third-party content creators would severely harm the quality of this site as a source of theme park news.

I agree. Although as much as I like Jack how honest can a review be when you were just invited into WDI to interview imagineers? It's only human that that would influence a review no matter how honest one is trying to be. It's a tough balancing act. They obviously cant be a brutally honest as a faceless / nameless user in a forum like this.
 

Stripes

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I strongly believe you should re-read what I wrote - as I did not say to exclude third-party content creators.
To be clear, I wasn’t posting the video as a proxy or a cite. Simply highlighting someone’s review. Honestly, I find value in listening to “some rando’s opinion” that has actually witnessed the show a lot more than those that are judging and discussing the show without having seen it.

Again, I have little to add at the moment. Nonetheless, clearly others are open to discussing the fairness of the review:
I agree. Although as much as I like Jack how honest can a review be when you were just invited into WDI to interview imagineers? It's only human that that would influence a review no matter how honest one is trying to be. It's a tough balancing act. They obviously cant be a brutally honest as a faceless / nameless user in a forum like this.
 

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