And note I said "reviews", not RT, not tomato score, just plain "reviews", and I said it for a reason as there is more than just RT used for reviews. I only pointed to RT after that in response to your comment of "Maybe it's just not as good as a lot of people think".
Kinda condescending but ok. Of course there's more than one factor. I've brought up multiple issues so far. Art style, bad trailers and marketing, streaming, all coupled with a mediocre ten year run for Pixar. So it's not really trying to be simplistic.
I wasn't speaking specifically about you. Some other posters don't want to deal in nuance and want to boil it down to one single word to point a finger. Its why I push back at just saying "quality".
We’re going back to this because they’re bombing movies like they’re parked in Pearl harbor and it is having an impact on the social structure Beyond entertainment…not good. Like real world stuff
Any good writer writes what they know…. I which is putting at least a little of themselves into the work of art… it is human nature… something gives them inspiration
Superman being an immigrant is not new…it has been there from the beginning…. What is new is that we can’t discuss how important immigration was to the USA without ruffling feathers
100%. And that directly ties into what I've been saying about all of this. Your previous films quality, the quality of the art, marketing... are going to factor in. That's where the benefit of the doubt comes in to play. So I just think a lot of the issues can funnel back to this last 10yr or so batch of films. That doesn't mean a new ip can't be successful or, PIXARS DEAD!!! It just means they're going to have to take some lumps and focus on the quality. And that might seem like a cop out, but on all aspects they need better quality because it's a bit inconsistent.
Except in this case, we're talking about DC/WB not Disney.
Good god, since when did immigration mean someone's parents officially seeking asylum? Also Superman (ALF too for that matter) is literally having to be thrust away from his planet due to it being destroyed. If that isn't a cause for one to seek asylum (legally or illegally) then I don't know what is, as that is one of the very definitions.
Sure I see your point, and even agree with it a bit. I just don't like to try to boil this down to "if they focus on quality all will be overcome" type of sentiment. As there are many factors that are beyond their control, many of which have been talked about for the last few years. Sure quality can win the day, but even a quality product doesn't guarantee success.
People will still go to movies that “resonate”…sometimes that’s familiarity with the ip…sometimes it’s quality
Immigrant takes on a decidedly different context in the summer of 2025 than it has in the past. I’ve posted earlier how this conventional definition is being twisted by some to somehow relate it to modern times. I suggest you go watch the film as Jor-El’s possible motivations for sending Kal-El to Earth affects that view - it’s a central plot point to the film. Go watch the movie. And this motivation is not a new take on the origin story.
Please watch the movie first before you keep opining. You often critique others for doing what you’re doing now (taking very opinionated stands without seeing the film). It’s spoiler territory to go into Jor-El’s motivations.
An illegal alien with parents who lied on forms and to US officials so his status can be revoked. Off to alligator Alcatraz for you Superman!
I've seen the movie. And that still doesn't change my opinion. As the motivations of the father doesn't change the outcome of whether Superman/Clark is an immigrant or not. Nor does it change Superman/Clark's motivations for being here, as pointed out in the movie.
I’m going to see it this weekend…so don’t spoil it for me…
…I’ll be a hootin and hollerin 