MK Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

Bocabear

Bocabear

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ᗩLᘿᑕ ֊ᗩζᗩᗰ said:
I think this assessment is wrong, especially with regards to your rigid definition of the Cars area. Yes, it houses attractions the intent there is clear, but the park essentially acts as a holding area, the same way Grizzly Peak Airfield acts as a holding area for Grizzly River Run, to allow guest to wander in the interim or before boarding. You're correct in that it's not a destination play-place but it does have leisure activities woven in. Per the concept art, it looks to retains some of TSI's core activities. If you don't think people will spend 30-45 minutes exploring Piston Peak... I think you're mistaken. We'll agree to disagree. As for LLs... they'll be sold regardless.
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I have seen no evidence of this... Does it have a fort? A cave that is not part of a queue but merely exists as an exploration trail? There has been no mention of food options... Or a raft ride... Someone also just stated there will be no play area......So how will this new area retain all of TSI's core activities? TSI didn't have a gift shop... so shopping is out.....
 
Dreamer19

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Emamba said:
“…announced that a new area inspired by the Pixar Animation Studios film “Cars” will be coming to a reimagined section of Frontierland at Magic Kingdom. “The American West has always been about keeping your eyes on the horizon … believing in yourself, carving your own path, and striving toward success. That goes for miners in the mountains, bears from the country, a princess from the bayou … or a racecar from the big city,” - Disney Parks Blog
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This is word vomit.
 
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DisneyHead123

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flyerjab said:
They recently signed a licensing and/or partnership deal with NASCAR in 2024.

I know many posters here give the current iteration of this company no props whatsoever. But there is no way that they rip out what some here apparently deem the nostalgic heart of this park for a somewhat dubious IP choice if it fell off the face of the Earth in terms of popularity (ie not a revenue generator of some kind).

I think they are looking at how ridiculously popular RSR is in DCA. If it reaches that level of popularity here it is a guaranteed money maker in terms of ILL sales. Then add the merchandise sales on top of that. This would fit their later parks operating model perfectly. I mean, like it or not, this is a guiding principal for them. How much revenue do they generate from the ROA and TSI? Can they monetize either of these with an ILL? That would be No and No, respectively. Cars is an easily recognizable brand that will generate revenue. YMMV as to whether it fits or not.
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Regarding the popularity of the IP - it’s an interesting topic but I don’t think it’s here nor there regarding how appropriate Cars is for MK. PJ Mask seems to be quite popular among toddlers - I totally see that but I in no way shape or form want PJ Mask land in that space.

I think the debate over Cars is because it goes in a different direction than much of what Disney is doing in other places. They typically go for a resort town feel while still including elements for children. Cars seems more like a ride that is primarily kid-centric and not designed to appeal as much to adults. This is going to sound harsh but rockwork and little waterfalls are something you can see done pretty well at a nice mini golf course. An authentic reproduction of a Mississippi riverboat with beautiful woodwork is not.
 
phillip9698

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TrainsOfDisney said:
I’ll try to make this quick but a thought I had while watching voices of Liberty today - as they were singing the medley of Armed Forces songs and a retired member of the army stood up…. I got quite emotional. Then they ended with singing “We the People” and it was such a perfect moment.

These “nostalgic” moments, are why I have a desire to visit Disney parks. Cars are fun. I love cars land at DCA and Radiator Springs Racers is one of Disneys best of recent years.

But cartoon cars aren’t going to make me pay $1500 for an AP.

The Disney parks that many of us fell in love with had a balance for all ages - those of us craving nostalgia in steam powered vehicles, ragtime and Americana music, and even the now nostalgic vision of the future of old Epcot and Tomorrowland.

A huge part of that is gone now…. No matter what the cars attraction is, it won’t replace what the island, riverboat, and rivers provided.
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It’s funny how nostalgia works, it shifts as generations go by.

My dad has great reverence for the Wild West and “cowboy pictures” as he would call them. He absolutely loves Frontierland, while I couldn’t care less.

Meanwhile I won’t stop talking about Nintendo Land at Epic Universe and I just about beg my kids to play the old Mario games with me in preparation. My dad said he didn’t even want to go see it.

As time goes on there will be far fewer people around who are nostalgic for the things you now cherish. That’s just how time works.
 
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Raineman

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Dreamer19 said:
Why didn’t they just go all in with a Cars Land instead of half-a*s-ing it? I have no issue with Cars. It simply doesn’t belong in Frontierland.

I’ve said repeatedly that if they want to change Frontierland into Cars Land, that would be a little weird thematically, but whatever. Instead they’re tearing out one of the most aesthetically and sensory pleasing aspects of the park to wedge in some cars with googley eyes.

The fact is that the current leadership at the Walt Disney Company have done the impossible and taken an unsinkable ship and made it sinkable. They made poor choices and now we’re seeing the result. The company is not the moneymaker it once was.

Like Epcot, this abomination has nothing to do with some Imagineering genius. They’re simply going with the cheapest option.

I’m sure this will generate profits in the short term, but only after selling more of the soul. Rivers Of America did not need to be torn out, they didn’t need to remove the riverboat.
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WDW has very little soul left. Disney management loves to trade soul for bland, prepackaged, merch-ready, mediocre IP fests that they know little Johnny and Jenny and their "soooooooooo magical" pixie dust addict mother will love.
 
JD80

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phillip9698 said:
It’s funny how nostalgia works, it shifts as generations go by.

My dad has great reverence for the Wild West and “cowboy pictures” as he would call them. He absolutely loves Frontierland, while I couldn’t care less.

Meanwhile I won’t stop talking about Nintendo Land at Epic Universe and I just about beg my kids to play the old Mario games with me in preparation. My dad said he didn’t even want to go see it.

As time goes on there won’t be people around who are nostalgic for the things you now cherish.
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If you (not @phillip9698 specifically) ever pay attention to the toy collectable market - the people that buy and sell toy collectables are always looking at toys made ~30 years ago because that is when the people who have the most disposable income were children. Disney does the same thing to some degree.
 
MisterPenguin

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A 2nd Cars Ride in Piston Peak?

We don't know.

The concept art is intentionally muddy in the area a kiddie attraction would be.

And Disney's own PR waffles about this "attraction" and has not called it a "ride"... yet. It *could* be a play area.

So: We don't know what the 2nd *attraction* will be.
 
ᗩLᘿᑕ ֊ᗩζᗩᗰ

ᗩLᘿᑕ ֊ᗩζᗩᗰ

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TrainsOfDisney said:
I actually disagree…. The internet has let niche interests thrive. I’m younger than you think I believe.

I had no interest in ragtime piano or acapella music before visiting Disney for example.
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Both are true. Nostalgia is timeless. But it's perceived differently with each generation, usually with a focus on their own fondness, their own "golden age" of experiences. While the content changes, the emotional experience remains strong. One of the reasons why Disney excels at milking the teat of Nostalgia is because they allow families to share in the experience. Their fondness for "Lilo & Stitch" now shared watching together anew, on the big screen.

Over time however, older references may become less relevant to younger generations (The Old West, Gunsmoke, Playing "Cowboys and Indians" in the backyard) which can make nostalgia for those eras seem to fade. However, technology like the internet can revives interest in past times, reshaping nostalgia rather than letting it die. Nostalgia doesn’t wane across generations but it does adapt, as is the case with Frontierland.
 
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Gusey

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MisterPenguin said:
A 2nd Cars Ride in Piston Peak?

We don't know.

The concept art is intentionally muddy in the area a kiddie attraction would be.

And Disney's own PR waffles about this "attraction" and has not called it a "ride"... yet. It *could* be a play area.

So: We don't know what the 2nd *attraction* will be.
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We do know they told media that there will be a queue in the Rangers HQ building, but it wasn't a part of the main blog post :)
 

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