MK Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

mlayton144

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If it were from Fantasyland, you could have the transition be the dark forest from Snow White. I hope they build some sort of entrance to the land from Fantasyland, because otherwise Villains is a new dead-end! A dead-end that was meant to solve a dead-end problem.
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I'm not sure how difficult it would be to reroute the service road that runs from the Tangled bathrooms to Be Our Guest, but it's a possible entrance to the land. Would fit much better thematically, too, since Villains Land is just "Fantasyland but only the bad guys"
Good ideas
 

Disone

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Well I would think 2 things:

1. The grass patch is not real and temporary, Cars and Villians are proven successful IP and MK needs the capacity boost.

2. Barely anyone bothered to show up for TSI closing, I've seen bigger crowds for both Dinoland/Triceratops Spin closing and ITTBAB. I think its last day truly shows how the public reacted to TSI. It went out with an eh.
Magic Kingdom may have already fixed its capacity problem.
Its a temporary dam. I think they have figured how to remove a riverboat every time they drain ROA. Except this is the last time doing it.
Likely a sign that they're just going to tear the paddle Wheeler apart.
Can you think of another 2 attractions that had less visitation over approx 14 acres ? I can’t.
You're completely missing the point. You didn't have to close these in order to build what you're building. That was the point and you know that.
The parks don’t have sufficient capacity now. They’re going from insufficient to still insufficient.
Again the capacity has been pretty good this summer. :(
If Disney was smart they would have some updated concept art for Villains land ready to show to get people excited about what is to come. Might help people see some light at the end of the tunnel.
This assumes villain's land ever gets built. But I have zero faith that something that has an opening date so far beyond the horizon is actually going to happen. I'm not saying it's not, but I'm definitely not saying it is.
 

BrianLo

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Is the main attraction likely to be an Headliner E-ticket? It looks cool but not on the same scale as Radiator Springs Racers.

I imagine it's going to fit into the same menu niche as Seven Dwarfs Mine Train. Which is also my tactful way of saying it's exactly how you'd classify that attraction. In fact, I would not be surprised if it finally displaces it for LLSP.

But is it a destination headline like Radiator Springs Racers? Absolutely no chance in the world.
 

TrainsOfDisney

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I imagine it's going to fit into the same menu niche as Seven Dwarfs Mine Train. Which is also my tactful way of saying it's exactly how you'd classify that attraction.
I agree. 7 dwarves is nice for what it is. But remember how they raved about the swinging coaster cars? They aren’t that big of a deal - novelty yes. Reminds me of how they talk about the “drifting” ATV’s and all.
 

Charlie The Chatbox Ghost

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The official locations of the occupants of the Rivers of America are:
  • Haunted Mansion: Upstate New York and the Hudson River Valley
  • Liberty Square: Colonial America
  • The Diamond Horseshoe: The Midwest, specifically St. Louis
  • Tom Sawyer's Island: Missouri
  • The Country Bear Jamboree: The North Woods
  • Pecos Bill: The Southwest States
  • Tiana's Bayou Adventure: New Orleans
  • Big Thunder Mountain: The West & Arizona
  • Cars: The Rocky Mountains
Not entirely the current conversation, but I'm doing some research for a convention panel presentation I'm doing in a few weeks, and I came across this:
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So it seems the Country Bears have always been from the "North Woods"- even before they opened at Disneyland. Interesting!
 

WorldExplorer

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I agree. 7 dwarves is nice for what it is. But remember how they raved about the swinging coaster cars? They aren’t that big of a deal - novelty yes. Reminds me of how they talk about the “drifting” ATV’s and all.

Every time I went on that ride, I got through the entire thing, then the vehicle came to a halt and made the bucket wiggle a bit, at which point I remembered "oh yeah, the car swings" right before pulling into the exit area.
 

Charlie The Chatbox Ghost

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Four?

If all goes to plan, there's gonna be some surprises ;)
If they somehow manage to open Villains land (is there even an official name yet?) with more than just a single E-Ticket and a basic coaster I'll be impressed. 2-3 attractions seems to be the new standard for new lands at Disney and Universal. I'm hoping for a highly themed coaster, an impressible but reliable dark ride, an attraction for younger kids (maybe a simple dark ride to contrast with an elaborate one?), and maybe a stage show (bring over the villains show from DHS so Muppets can move into that theater).

Either way I have higher hopes for Villains land than Cars, and I'm hoping and praying that they both truly add to the park. I'm feeling a bit heartbroken over loss of the river's ambience, but I'm hoping that the new river and waterfalls will be an acceptable visual replacement. The riverboat is the biggest loss, imo, because the park NEEDS quiet, simple things to do that don't have long waits. I'm afraid of a future where Magic Kingdom is entirely IP E-Tickets that have low reliability and capacity, demanding you buy LLs if you even hope to get more than a handful of rides in per day. What has to change for Disney to make the parks visitor-friendly again?
 

TheMaxRebo

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Not entirely the current conversation, but I'm doing some research for a convention panel presentation I'm doing in a few weeks, and I came across this:
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So it seems the Country Bears have always been from the "North Woods"- even before they opened at Disneyland. Interesting!

I believe that was to fit in when they were going to be at the Mineral Springs ski resort - that they came from the Nort Woods to the ski town
 

Charlie The Chatbox Ghost

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I believe that was to fit in when they were going to be at the Mineral Springs ski resort - that they came from the Nort Woods to the ski town
That was so early on in their development, it was before we even had any finalized characters, but I could see them keeping that backstory as an homage to Mineral King, tying them to Walt a bit more than just being his last theme park project before his passing (funny that his last animated project he had a hand in before he died also had a singing bear). They probably came up with the more specific backstory for the Disneyland version, since they built an entire land for them- crazy to think the Country Bears were the first Disney IP to ever get their own dedicated land!
This isn’t about the best business decisions. It’s about a guy who doesn’t like the park wanting the map to look different so he can say “I did that.”
It's a shame that these men have such an obsession with legacy. Bob Iger's legacy would've been a positive one (even if it wasn't) in the eyes of people if he hadn't come back after Chapek. But whether he wanted more money or more glory, he came back, and now we see him for the "creative" he truly is: someone more concerned with making money than making magic. And for some reason, he really, really loves Pixar's Cars.

Can we get a new Walt/Roy duo like we had with Eisner and Wells? Please?
 

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