MK Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

[donaldtoo]

 

[Dreamer19]

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Oh Disney was dead to me after what they did to Splash Mountain and how they handled it.

I’m just here to yell into the void because even though they went so far as to ban a wonderful song like ‘Zip A Dee Doo Dah’ from the parks, I still never thought they would look at a view like the one below and say “yeah, this no good, this need vroom-vroom.”

 

[DCLcruiser]

I think it’s akin to having Oktoberfest in Germany. Technically the outfits and such are already German but it’s not like most people run around in lederhosen these days. Many Americans actual experience of America is very much Starbucks, big SUVs, and wearing athletic wear for all occasions. The stuff of Main Street USA is so far away at this point it’s like stepping into another world.

I put on an Oktoberfest party every year. I’m all for that as it is a specific time of year. If you want to have Mickey’s Patriotic Party in July each year, that’s fine.

Actually in Germany they have parties that are themed to wearing dirndl and trachten. Very expensive clothes sold at high end department stores, not the cheap costumes we know of. It’s certainly a chance at a nostalgic past.

I have no issue with Main St. The old shoppes, Dapper Dan’s, Carriages, etc. It is like being transported into a TV show. I just don’t think it’s necessary in Liberty Square/Landing to have bunting, or the Hall of Presidents in a theme park. Haunted Mansion and Frontierland do a better job of subtly being about America.

 

[Disstevefan1]

RoA, an "Americana Attraction" is being replaced by Piston Peaks, which is an "Americana Attraction."

Splash got a Georgia setting replaced by a NOLA setting. Still 'Americana.'

The 'refresh' of CBJ is still 'Americana.'

Thunder Mountain is fully refurbed to continue to be 'Americana.'

Mains Street U.S.A. is located <checks notes> still in America.

HoP still doing its "Americana" thing, though it was rumored to go away along with Liberty Square... hold on... <checks parks> ...they're all still there.

For now my Penguin friend.... For now.....

 

[EagleScout610]

Imagine 10 years ago posting here that they where going to replace Spalsh with a dumpster fire of an attraction, and when they finished with that they where going to rip out ROA for a freaking CARS ride.

You would have been laughed off these forums.

You would have also been right.

Imagine telling someone 10 years ago that somehow Aladdin's carpets would outlast not only Rivers of America and Splash Mountain, but Muppets, Rock N Rollercoaster, Dinosaur, ect...

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

All I was saying was that those particular Imagineers ideated these things at Disneyland first.

I haven’t seen your responses on the boards too much so I’ll start by saying I’m not trying to be argumentative with you - but you said they were Disneyland Imagineers - when both Baxter and Gurr were a part of Walt Disney World Design and construction and were both on property leading construction when magic kingdom was being built.

 

[Jedi14]

If Disney was smart they would have some updated concept art for Villains land ready to show to get people excited about what is to come. Might help people see some light at the end of the tunnel.

They’re probably waiting to show something at Destination.

 

[DisneyHead123]

I put on an Oktoberfest party every year. I’m all for that as it is a specific time of year. If you want to have Mickey’s Patriotic Party in July each year, that’s fine.

Actually in Germany they have parties that are themed to wearing dirndl and trachten. Very expensive clothes sold at high end department stores, not the cheap costumes we know of. It’s certainly a chance at a nostalgic past.

I have no issue with Main St. The old shoppes, Dapper Dan’s, Carriages, etc. It is like being transported into a TV show. I just don’t think it’s necessary in Liberty Square/Landing to have bunting, or the Hall of Presidents in a theme park. Haunted Mansion and Frontierland do a better job of subtly being about America.

I guess to me the bunting and such is more of the same idea. Honestly it could be themed to a different country or era, I just like the “stepping into another world” element.

The Oktoberfest party sounds fun, btw! Fall is definitely my favorite time of year.

 

[Disney Glimpses]

Imagine 10 years ago posting here that they where going to replace Spalsh with a dumpster fire of an attraction, and when they finished with that they where going to rip out ROA for a freaking CARS ride.

You would have been laughed off these forums.

You would have also been right.

The ironic thing is, I’ve seen some absolutely ridiculous takes on these forums—ones that made me audibly laugh. But none have been as absurd as what has actually transpired at the Magic Kingdom.

 

[Jambo Dad]

So this is it-no turning back now. A generation of lazy, incompetent Disney leaders is completing their work. They have successfully destroyed the movie franchises for Star Wars, Indy, Pixar, and Marvel. They razed Splash, replacing actual African folk tales with a warmed over European one in a poorly conceived ride. Ripped up Epcot for five years for scant results. Now they go to work on destroying ROA and TSI. Their basis is survey scores- the go to answer for weak leaders. Why not take out the castle next - it doesn’t have a high-scoring ride either. I could also lament about building for an increasingly lowered common denominator- but I will skip that for now. You know- we might have given the previous imagineers the benefit of the doubt, but this team has earned no such trust.

 

[flynnibus]

It already happened in my lifetime in 2016 when they built GE. I lamented the changes when they were announced but ultimately could get over them because most of the changes didn’t actually change my experience at Disneyland. Which is my point. I didn’t like the concept of removing a chunk of mature trees and secluded part of the river for a single IP land inside Disneyland. But all things considered the project turned out fine.

Yup - as I said.. it was a ton of angst, but at the end of the day, the result was good, so people have moved on and largely forgotten the old complaints. At the time, there was no concessions from the loyalists.. this was all sacrilege. Yet now, even as Disney basically abandoned Pirates Lair and thinned it out... people here gloss over Disney ripped out the fort and TSI ages ago.

The new river scenes are nice. (What new river scenes will there be at MK? Haha)

That's kind of the point - we don't know yet people act like doomsday. We know the last image suggested there is a water barrier. We also know that redoing the waterfront along FL would require some reworking of a ton more stuff.. so what will do they do? The obvious easiest answer is keep it looking like it does now.. like an island or peninsula across the water and across the way from FL.

Maybe it won't be as shocking as some believe it will be.. especially since we have no idea what the actual view will be.

 

[SMRT-1Michael]

I haven’t seen your responses on the boards too much so I’ll start by saying I’m not trying to be argumentative with you - but you said they were Disneyland Imagineers - when both Baxter and Gurr were a part of Walt Disney World Design and construction and were both on property leading construction when magic kingdom was being built.

I don't post here nearly as often as when I joined this forum in the mid 2000s. I'll fade away for another 5 years like I usually do. All the best.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

I don't post here nearly as often as when I joined this forum in the mid 2000s. I'll fade away for another 5 years like I usually do. All the best.

I don’t want you to leave - I was just not wanting to sound overly argumentative but also point out the correction.

 

[SamusAranX]

I've never confused a boat and a train, but what do I know.

I hope for your sake you never make a typo on this forum, as any roasting you receive would be well deserved.

 

[DCLcruiser]

Yup - as I said.. it was a ton of angst, but at the end of the day, the result was good, so people have moved on and largely forgotten the old complaints. At the time, there was no concessions from the loyalists.. this was all sacrilege. Yet now, even as Disney basically abandoned Pirates Lair and thinned it out... people here gloss over Disney ripped out the fort and TSI ages ago.



That's kind of the point - we don't know yet people act like doomsday. We know the last image suggested there is a water barrier. We also know that redoing the waterfront along FL would require some reworking of a ton more stuff.. so what will do they do? The obvious easiest answer is keep it looking like it does now.. like an island or peninsula across the water and across the way from FL.

Maybe it won't be as shocking as some believe it will be.. especially since we have no idea what the actual view will be.

What if they make the water barrier more of a rapid? The noise helping to drown out the cars.

 

[SamusAranX]

This part is easy. Look at what RSR does at DCA. The ride is an unstoppable juggernaut of constant long queues and LLSP.

I’d wager money that this attraction will command lines but won’t have the charm and quality of RSR

 

[monothingie]

That's kind of the point - we don't know yet people act like doomsday. We know the last image suggested there is a water barrier. We also know that redoing the waterfront along FL would require some reworking of a ton more stuff.. so what will do they do? The obvious easiest answer is keep it looking like it does now.. like an island or peninsula across the water and across the way from FL.

Maybe it won't be as shocking as some believe it will be.. especially since we have no idea what the actual view will be.

I don't think anyone necessarily has a problem with the aesthetics of the new crap, so long as you don't hear ka-chows and whatever else from the surrounding areas.

I do think that a lot of people are most upset that this couldn't have been an addition rather than a replacement.

I personally think it's going to be the same caliber as TT 3.0. Not great and not terrible.

 

[Charlie The Chatbox Ghost]

Quite honestly I question how they can transition to Villains from any land

If it were from Fantasyland, you could have the transition be the dark forest from Snow White. I hope they build some sort of entrance to the land from Fantasyland, because otherwise Villains is a new dead-end! A dead-end that was meant to solve a dead-end problem.

I'm not sure how difficult it would be to reroute the service road that runs from the Tangled bathrooms to Be Our Guest, but it's a possible entrance to the land. Would fit much better thematically, too, since Villains Land is just "Fantasyland but only the bad guys"

 

[SamusAranX]

I’m not sure you understand what “subtraction” means.

All that new stuff could have been added without bulldozing existing capacity. That’s one of the key reasons Disney made the Florida resort so big!

This.

And one of them was not an “opening”. Little Mermaid is re-opening, an important distinction. They let sit and rot and lost capacity and are restoring it to compensate for the subtraction of MV3D

 

[SamusAranX]

Subtraction - less than
That's why I said in the long term is isn't a subtraction, as at the end of construction, no park will have less attractions than before construction began

So in 15 years Disney world managed not to lose capacity ? Congratulations? What an astounding accomplishment