MK Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

DCLcruiser

DCLcruiser

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Casper Gutman said:
I love visiting museums but I don’t think they should open a branch of the Smithsonian in Fantasyland.

Certain things belong certain places.
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Agreed. So it’s ok for it to leave WDW. People can go museums.

They can have Americana without it being in your face. Frontierland and Haunted Mansion do a good job of being Americana, without Stars and Stripes (I do like the Colonial state flags at Regal Eagle BBQ in EPCOT). It’s subtle and creative. Piston Peak, with a national parks feel continues that tradition (all be it with animated cars).
 
Casper Gutman

Casper Gutman

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DCLcruiser said:
Agreed. So it’s ok for it to leave WDW. People can go museums.

They can have Americana without it being in your face. Frontierland and Haunted Mansion do a good job of being Americana, without Stars and Stripes (I do like the Colonial state flags at Regal Eagle BBQ in EPCOT). It’s subtle and creative. Piston Peak, with a national parks feel continues that tradition (all be it with animated cars).
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My post was about your desire for thrill coasters at Disney.

The Americana of Disney is not akin to a museum.
 
flynnibus

flynnibus

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mickEblu said:
Flynninus: they already did

Me: The river, the riverboat and the island are still there. The majority and most important aspects of them are still there. You cant compare any of the alterations made in the past to completely removing those elements. To expect the same level of backlash because the burning cabin is gone or the back end of the ROA (that could only be viewed by people riding the boats) would be anywhere near completely removing those elements overnight is wild.
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So if there was a riverfront that remained after this change.. then what?

"It's not the same! It's not the RoA I grew up with! It's not Walt's RoA!"

Well, neither is the RoA/Island/Riverfront you got now.
 
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DisneyHead123

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DCLcruiser said:
Can I be unpopular and say that’s fine? We are in the US, it’s somewhat redundant to have Americana at the parks. I wouldn’t want a Francophone ride at Paris either. I would take the train to Paris, or Versailles, for that experience.
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I think it’s akin to having Oktoberfest in Germany. Technically the outfits and such are already German but it’s not like most people run around in lederhosen these days. Many Americans actual experience of America is very much Starbucks, big SUVs, and wearing athletic wear for all occasions. The stuff of Main Street USA is so far away at this point it’s like stepping into another world.
 
Fox&Hound

Fox&Hound

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If Disney was smart they would have some updated concept art for Villains land ready to show to get people excited about what is to come. Might help people see some light at the end of the tunnel.
 
brb1006

brb1006

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SMRT-1Michael said:
Which is craaazy. I remember seeing the last performance of MSEP at DLR broadcast on local news! On the flip side, attraction openings are pretty lame now too lol. Nothing like the pomp and fanfare of the 70s-90s.
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I just rewatched the broadcast of Main Street Electrical Parade's initial Final Performance that aired on the Orange County News Channel. The broadcast was 40 minutes long and featured interviews and audience reactions.


My favorite coverage of MSEP's Farewell Season is from Yesterland article by Benjamin Rockwell posted November 30, 1996. After the final showing, audiences sung “Nah-nah nah-Nah, Nah-nah nah-Nah, Hey-hey, good bye." and the closing lyric to the Mickey Mouse Club.

Heck, the marketing for MSEP's Farewell Season included billboards, pins, and commercials.
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I miss when Disney used to give proper fanfare to upcoming and closing attractions.
 
mickEblu

mickEblu

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flynnibus said:
So if there was a riverfront that remained after this change.. then what?

"It's not the same! It's not the RoA I grew up with! It's not Walt's RoA!"

Well, neither is the RoA/Island/Riverfront you got now.
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It already happened in my lifetime in 2016 when they built GE. I lamented the changes when they were announced but ultimately could get over them because most of the changes didn’t actually change my experience at Disneyland. Which is my point. I didn’t like the concept of removing a chunk of mature trees and secluded part of the river for a single IP land inside Disneyland. But all things considered the project turned out fine. The new river scenes are nice. (What new river scenes will there be at MK? Haha) If you don’t walk to GE you hardly know it’s there. In fact, i do forget about it sometimes. I still miss things like Big Thunder Ranch and BBQ, a more rustic Big Thunder trail and Hungry Bear being on the water but those things can’t be compared to losing the whole river, island, riverboat and vista that anchors most of the west side of the park. That would be catastrophic.
 
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fgmnt

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flynnibus said:
So if there was a riverfront that remained after this change.. then what?

"It's not the same! It's not the RoA I grew up with! It's not Walt's RoA!"

Well, neither is the RoA/Island/Riverfront you got now.
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I think maintaining the Liberty Belle and TSI as-is indefinitely is not a really great stroke of park management. I do not think there are any unique parts of either of these experiences that earn the nigh-encasing in amber you have on the CoP and IASW. I do think the company sees some attractions as sacred cows and the attractions that were on RoA until yesterday didn’t clear that bar. Walt Disney did not invent the guided tour on a riverboat but WED Enterprises’ World’s Fair attractions at Disneyland and at MK are the bar to clear.

I think the strongest argument against this closure has been and will continue to be a really needless damaging of the placemaking of Magic Kingdom. Frontierland is probably the most pleasant land in the park, and the public path-facing side of ROA is the literal centerpiece of it. The company has seen fit to take a wrecking ball to it for some pretty dubious reasons. Meanwhile, the connection from Liberty Square to Fantasyland, the connection between Fantasyland and Tomorrowland, the Hub, and park egress will continue to be unpleasant indefinitely. Maybe I am just not the target audience any more but Magic Kingdom has become and seems to further cement itself as an unpleasant place to be.
 
Purduevian

Purduevian

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The Underminer said:
Is the main attraction likely to be an Headliner E-ticket? It looks cool but not on the same scale as Radiator Springs Racers.
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I think it'll be a little more than half the length of RSR... but really hard to say based on the one concept art.
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Took a crack at the ride layout on google maps and put Luigi's from DCA behind the cabin. Track length would be ~2,250 feet (not including elevation changes). For reference test track is 5,246 ft and I couldn't find a track length for RSR but AI thinks it's about 4,200 feet.
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Trauma

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Imagine 10 years ago posting here that they where going to replace Spalsh with a dumpster fire of an attraction, and when they finished with that they where going to rip out ROA for a freaking CARS ride.

You would have been laughed off these forums.

You would have also been right.
 

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