MK Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

[Dranth]

The whole purpose of buying all the land in Florida was that there would be room to build new things without ripping out the old ones, which Walt always disliked about the Anaheim Disneyland being landlocked.

This seems like a bit of a mischaracterization of why Walt wanted all that land to me.

He had no trouble removing things or changing them if he didn't think they were working. What he didn't like was all the developments that sprung up around Disneyland and wanted to own enough property to force them from being on his door step. Between that and wanting to build an actual city, he needed a lot more land.

 

[WDWhopper]

This seems like a bit of a mischaracterization of why Walt wanted all that land to me.

He had no trouble removing things or changing them if he didn't think they were working.

Walt’s quote "Here in Florida, we have something special we never enjoyed at Disneyland... the blessing of size. There's enough land here to hold all the ideas and plans we can possibly imagine."

My first visit to Disneyland was 1961 and my mom actually met Walt Disney in front of the Tiki Room one day. The way I remember it (and I feel I have some first hand knowledge about this) is that Walt didn’t want to have to take things out to put new things in, and this was one of the major reasons to buy all the land in Florida. Yes, he also wanted some protection from the outside world, but he was already having to remove things to put other things in at Disneyland and that irked him. I remember this as being one of his talking points about the Florida project. That there was room for everything without anything being taken out. Anyway, my original point was that you don’t take out an iconic attraction like the river boat or the rivers of America. It would be like tearing down the Matterhorn at Disneyland. And you especially don’t do it during a time in your company history when you don’t have the best of the best at the Imagineering helm.

 

[trainplane3]

Looks like they put up a blue temporary dam ready to drain RoA, are they just going to lift the boat out of the water and dismantle it using the big thunder crane?
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I don't think you realize how heavy the Belle is. It'll probably be a in place demo. See Carowinds from 20 years ago and their Sternwheeler.

 

[WEDYENSID]

It has been open recently, and was certainly open last week.

6th is a Sunday, 7th is a Monday.

 

[Dreamer19]

LOLOLOL “expansion”

 

[Gusey]

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LOLOLOL “expansion”

It's closing to make way for the expansion of Villains Land, being built on the back half of RoA and the expansion plot up to the train track. The park's footprint is getting expanded, even if Cars is replacing TSI. Similar to how Pandora was an expansion despite replacing Camp Minnie Mickey as it expanded that park's footprint, Monsters is an expansion as the door coaster isn't replacing anything and Encanto will be an expansion as its using the expansion plot behind Dino-Rama

 

[Andrew C]

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LOLOLOL “expansion”

They cannot call it expansion! But. They are.

 

[Agent H]

Let's get er done!
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Ka-chigga!

This looks wrong.

 

[flynnibus]

I remember this as being one of his talking points about the Florida project. That there was room for everything without anything being taken out

You are injecting your own ideas. What Walt ultimately wanted was control to do what he wanted - and the plot in FL allowed that. It’s why investigating the concepts that lead to RCID started immediately and as part of the picking the location.

Walt was always for improvement and plussing. He didn’t leave stuff for the sake of untouchable.

Disney isn’t pulling the RoA because it’s forced to for space - they are replacing what they don’t want to keep.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

They cannot call it expansion! But. They are.

They did the same thing with New Fantasyland

By building in space previously occupied by 20,000 Leagues and Mickey's Toontown Fair

 

[mickEblu]

Let's get er done!
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Ka-chigga!

Barf. If I ever see this on the Disneyland map I’m chaining myself to Tom and Huck’s treehouse.

 

[EricsBiscuit]

Just got to experience TSI again today before they closed it for lightning. What are the odds that TSI will have more animation than Cars and Villains combined? By the way, everything was moving and working at TSI…

 

[easyrowrdw]

They did the same thing with New Fantasyland

By building in space previously occupied by 20,000 Leagues and Mickey's Toontown Fair

So are they counting the river and island as park of their measurement? Or is the actual new area for Villains actually bigger than whatever the previous expansion was? Now I’m wondering what the last land expansion was that didn’t replace something.

 

[James Alucobond]

So are they counting the river and island as park of their measurement? Or is the actual new area for Villains actually bigger than whatever the previous expansion was? Now I’m wondering what the last land expansion was that didn’t replace something.

They are counting TSI in the total measurement they gave, but it’s still probably genuinely the largest expansion regardless since if you discount TSI, you’d have to discount 20k and Toontown from New Fantasyland too. They’re pretty much using the entire area inside the train tracks west of Haunted Mansion.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Just got to experience TSI again today before they closed it for lightning. What are the odds that TSI will have more animation than Cars and Villains combined? By the way, everything was moving and working at TSI…View attachment 868647View attachment 868648View attachment 868649View attachment 868650View attachment 868651View attachment 868652

Individual objects that have animation? Most likely not .... Points of motion? Probably yes (so fewer figures but each with a lot more animation)

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

You are injecting your own ideas. What Walt ultimately wanted

You do see the irony right? Nobody knows for sure what Walt ultimately would want at the magic kingdom park.

I feel pretty confident, however, that he would most certainly want Main Street usa, the steam train, and steam boat.

 

[HMF]

you especially don’t do it during a time in your company history when you don’t have the best of the best at the Imagineering helm.

The sad fact of the matter is WDI has basically become a glorified marketing firm under current leadership.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Walt’s quote "Here in Florida, we have something special we never enjoyed at Disneyland... the blessing of size. There's enough land here to hold all the ideas and plans we can possibly imagine."

He said that as part of a promotional film for EPCOT, which he was pitching as a planned city.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

He said that as part of a promotional film for EPCOT, which he was pitching as a planned city.

Just a random fact - that script was written by Marty.

 

[WDWhopper]

You are injecting your own ideas. What Walt ultimately wanted was control to do what he wanted - and the plot in FL allowed that. It’s why investigating the concepts that lead

Walt said: “Here in Florida, we have something special we never enjoyed at Disneyland – the blessing of size. There\'s enough land here to hold all the ideas and plans we can possibly imagine,"

There is enough land here to hold all of the ideas and plans that we could possibly imagine. I don’t see anything you mentioned in his quote. What I do see is Walt wanting to have a place that
could hold all of his ideas without having to remove any other to do it. Why else would you have such a large space? If he meant otherwise, he would’ve mentioned how the spaces could evolve. It’s pretty obvious this quote means exactly that he wanted… somewhere that he could build new ideas without having to remove other ideas.

No, the reason the current leadership is removing these areas is because it is cheaper to do so than to build another park to house new ideas. Or to clear unimproved land to expand existing parks. It’s just easier to tear down something and build something new in it’s place. Tsk tsk.