Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World

[Casper Gutman]

I'm also confused to the previous posters point because like?? If they will never buy any product that used to be more value, they are going to run out of products pretty quickly due to shrinkflation

There is a very, very pronounced difference between a product increasing in price due to inflation or improvements in the product and the exploitative, exponential explosion of prices at WDW.

 

[Purduevian]

You can. But as of now Soarin is the easiest one to do because most everyone wants the other tier 1s. The tier 2 return times get pushed out farther than Soarin before day of.

Soarin was the easier tier 1 to get at opening... however, its still easier to pre-book figment or the film festival at opening. If you are trying to maximize LLMP at epcot, I would prebook RAT and book an opening time at figment. Tap into figment and immediately book Frozen and TT

 

[bork]

Soarin was the easier tier 1 to get at opening... however, its still easier to pre-book figment or the film festival at opening. If you are trying to maximize LLMP at epcot, I would prebook RAT and book an opening time at figment. Tap into figment and immediately book Frozen and TT

Isn't it possible that TT is gone before park opening, similar to Remy, meaning Frozen is the only worthwhile ride left?

 

[ctrlaltdel]

Isn't it possible that TT is gone before park opening, similar to Remy, meaning Frozen is the only worthwhile ride left?

TT being open should spread some of the demand out on Tier 1. Epcot does have some obvious LL problems with the lack of top end attractions for the LLMP though, which is why Remy and Frozen go so quickly.

 

[Chi84]

We're all sort of acknowledging that multi-passes are genuinely, indisputably a rip-off, a way to claw more money from less informed guests in exchange for a worthless product. It's an utterly contemptible business practice but we're just supposed to smile and murmur, "just Disney being Disney!" I mean, that argument is how we got a lot of the garbage we have now at WDW.

I’m not less informed.

 

[Purduevian]

Isn't it possible that TT is gone before park opening, similar to Remy, meaning Frozen is the only worthwhile ride left?

extremely unlikely... EPCOT isn't likely to magically gain a huge % of people going/buying LLMP due to test track opening. Most of LLMPers were either picking Frozen or Remy (a few were picking Soarin, but not many). Now you should get a more even distribution between Frozen, Remy, and Test track. Meaning Frozen and Remy are likely to last longer, even though Test Track will sell out much faster than Soarin.

Basically, every person that pre-books TT is 1 less person booking Frozen or Remy (assuming a negligible amount were prebooking soarin)

 

[bork]

Thanks for the responses. We're going 1 month after TT opens. Still debating if LLMP is worth it for Epcot for our family of 5. We had a terrible experience with Genie+ at Epcot 3 years ago. Will be watching wait times to see how it will work to rope drop Guardians then head to TT.

 

[Purduevian]

Thanks for the responses. We're going 1 month after TT opens. Still debating if LLMP is worth it for Epcot for our family of 5. We had a terrible experience with Genie+ at Epcot 3 years ago. Will be watching wait times to see how it will work to rope drop Guardians then head to TT.

We have to see what is selling out first at EPCOT (it will probably still be RAT). However, I'm assuming anyone that pre-books RAT and uses their first LL within the first 2ish hours of the park will still be able to get Frozen or TT as their 4th LL (or both if they want to sacrifice the their other tier 2).

 

[Disgruntled Walt]

I just made my LL reservations for next week this morning, and I'm here to report that the planning process was so frustrating that I nearly wanted to throw my phone at the wall. It made me less excited for my trip.

Forking over $1000 additional to do what we used to do for free. It's absolutely disgusting.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

I just made my LL reservations for next week this morning, and I'm here to report that the planning process was so frustrating that I nearly wanted to throw my phone at the wall. It made me less excited for my trip.

Forking over $1000 additional to do what we used to do for free. It's absolutely disgusting.

Why would you do that?

 

[Disgruntled Walt]

Why would you do that?

We have a party of 11, and it's our first trip in 8 years and last for goodness knows when. My niece and nephews can't handle long lines at all.

 

[Dranth]

I just made my LL reservations for next week this morning, and I'm here to report that the planning process was so frustrating that I nearly wanted to throw my phone at the wall. It made me less excited for my trip.

Forking over $1000 additional to do what we used to do for free. It's absolutely disgusting.

The process itself is roughly the same as it was when it was free. Is it just the cost aspect that got to you?

 

[Tony the Tigger]

We have a party of 11, and it's our first trip in 8 years and last for goodness knows when. My niece and nephews can't handle long lines at all.

OK, 11 people makes $1K sound less horrific.

Having been recently, I’m guessing you could have spent half that and been just fine, just by either arriving early or staying late.

 

[Disgruntled Walt]

The process itself is roughly the same as it was when it was free. Is it just the cost aspect that got to you?

Yeah, but I didn't like FP+ either. We only had one family trip like that back in 2017, but it wasn't as annoying when I didn't have to pay for EVERYTHING.

 

[Chi84]

OK, 11 people makes $1K sound less horrific.

Having been recently, I’m guessing you could have spent half that and been just fine, just by either arriving early or staying late.

I can tell you that “just by” doesn’t work at all for my party of 10.

 

[Disgruntled Walt]

OK, 11 people makes $1K sound less horrific.

Having been recently, I’m guessing you could have spent half that and been just fine, just by either arriving early or staying late.

Some in our party have mobility and sleep issues, so mornings are out. The kids make late nights not ideal either.

The thing is, we didn't even buy LLMP for every day. We bought it for AK and for DHS, one day each. LLSP for Guardians and TRON (for only a few of us). It still cost that much.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

I can tell you that “just by” doesn’t work at all for my party of 10.

Neither for my party of 2! But there are crazy people who get up that early!

 

[Fido Chuckwagon]

We're all sort of acknowledging that multi-passes are genuinely, indisputably a rip-off, a way to claw more money from less informed guests in exchange for a worthless product.

lol, no.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Honestly, I’m starting to think the single passes are the only thing genuinely “worth it” at WDW, perhaps with the exception of Hollywood Studios, especially if you have early entry and rides are properly functioning at park open. Pre-booking eliminated all the potential gaming of drop times, and tiering has made it so that two of your three choices are frequently worthless. FoP and TRON make some sense to secure if they’re important to you as their wait times really never drop into the reasonable range and the latter isn’t even available during early entry, but a lot of the rest feels blah, with all of the utility essentially drained of it by noon if not earlier.

If you are willing to be there for rope drop - and ideally towards the front of rope drop - can definitely do without LLMP

We've shifted to more easy going trips and getting there for early entry isn't always in the cards so I see LLMP as like paying to sleep in and still get a lot done in less time in the parks

Like a lot of things it is time vs money

 

[Casper Gutman]

lol, no.

Thank you for your contribution.