Elio (Pixar - June 2025)

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easyrowrdw

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Andrew C said:
Beloved characters established in 2015. Struggling to think of any characters that are still impactful today that occurred after..coco? They just don’t resonate.
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Yeah. I wasn’t interested in Elio based on the trailers and the recent track record of Pixar original movies hasn’t been great IMO. If not for the positive comments I kept hearing I probably wouldn’t have watched it. I thought it was good, though not in the top tier of Pixar movies.
 
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DKampy said:
But to also state that box office is equal to quality is false…. That has never been the case. Even when the box office was at its healthiest…. Many movies that are largely considered some of the best films of all time bombed when they were originally released
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Elio is not a best film of all time. IMHO it was poor compared to previous Pixar movies.
 
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coffeefan

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DisneyWarrior27 said:
Apparently, according to the Hollywood Reporter, Elio’s production was more troubled than we thought, even IF the final product we got could have been worse, IMO: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/m...-america-ferrera-director-queer-2-1236301860/.
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In the meantime, the pain of the Elio process still stings for the creatives who saw the movie’s trajectory become something of a cautionary tale. “I’d love to ask Pete and the other Disney executives whether or not they thought the rewrite was worth it,” says the artist. “Would they have lost this much money if they simply let Adrian tell his story?”


This is where I'm at. They need to let Pixar be Pixar. Support artistic freedom.
 
Tha Realest

Tha Realest

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coffeefan said:
In the meantime, the pain of the Elio process still stings for the creatives who saw the movie’s trajectory become something of a cautionary tale. “I’d love to ask Pete and the other Disney executives whether or not they thought the rewrite was worth it,” says the artist. “Would they have lost this much money if they simply let Adrian tell his story?”


This is where I'm at. They need to let Pixar be Pixar. Support artistic freedom.
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They’re free to express their art wherever they’d like. As it stands they work(ed) on mass media projects with budgets in the hundreds of millions. They don’t have free rein to do as they see fit each day given their employment contract. And Pete Docter is very supportive of his staff.
 
DisneyWarrior27

DisneyWarrior27

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coffeefan said:
In the meantime, the pain of the Elio process still stings for the creatives who saw the movie’s trajectory become something of a cautionary tale. “I’d love to ask Pete and the other Disney executives whether or not they thought the rewrite was worth it,” says the artist. “Would they have lost this much money if they simply let Adrian tell his story?”


This is where I'm at. They need to let Pixar be Pixar. Support artistic freedom.
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Tha Realest said:
They’re free to express their art wherever they’d like. As it stands they work(ed) on mass media projects with budgets in the hundreds of millions. They don’t have free rein to do as they see fit each day given their employment contract. And Pete Docter is very supportive of his staff.
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I feel like Hoppers and/or Gatto will mark Pixar being Pixar with them returning to their classic and/or creative roots again.

But, we’ll see.
 
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easyrowrdw

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DisneyWarrior27 said:
Apparently, according to the Hollywood Reporter, Elio’s production was more troubled than we thought, even IF the final product we got could have been worse, IMO: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/m...-america-ferrera-director-queer-2-1236301860/.
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There was a similar article written after Inside Out 2 was released. That movie turned out to be a gigantic hit, Elio not so much. I wonder how much overlap there is in the unnamed (and former employee) sources of the two stories. Folks here said reports were that the original version of the movie didn’t work well. I wonder why nothing came out about the rest of this stuff until now.

I can’t compare the movie versions of course, but I certainly don’t agree that this version is about nothing or that the character is generic.
 
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DisneyWarrior27

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easyrowrdw said:
There was a similar article written after Inside Out 2 was released. That movie turned out to be a gigantic hit, Elio not so much. I wonder how much overlap there is in the unnamed (and former employee) sources of the two stories. Folks here said reports were that the original version of the movie didn’t work well. I wonder why nothing came out about the rest of this stuff until now.

I can’t compare the movie versions of course, but I certainly don’t agree that this version is about nothing or that the character is generic.
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My thoughts exactly.
 
coffeefan

coffeefan

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Tha Realest said:
They’re free to express their art wherever they’d like. As it stands they work(ed) on mass media projects with budgets in the hundreds of millions. They don’t have free rein to do as they see fit each day given their employment contract. And Pete Docter is very supportive of his staff.
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Sure they can, but that's eliminating Pixar's competitive advantage. If this is a sign of Pixar's future then they will be a shell of their former self, with only sequels to movies created during their golden years having tremendous success.
 
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TsWade2

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DisneyWarrior27 said:
Apparently, according to the Hollywood Reporter, Elio’s production was more troubled than we thought, even IF the final product we got could have been worse, IMO: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/m...-america-ferrera-director-queer-2-1236301860/.
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Woah! Well, that explains why Elio is a flop! I hate to be negative, but they better not screw up on Hoppers and Gatto or it’ll be……I can’t say it, but like I said, they better not screw up Hoppers and Gatto! Well, Gatto especially!
 
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easyrowrdw

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coffeefan said:
Sure they can, but that's eliminating Pixar's competitive advantage. If this is a sign of Pixar's future then they will be a shell of their former self, with only sequels to movies created during their golden years having tremendous success.
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Are we sure Pixar’s biggest competitive advantage wasn’t the talent of the people making the movies? The movies that are generally considered the best all have the same people directing - Lasseter, Docter, Bird, Stanton, and probably Unkrich. Those guys made lesser films too of course. But I don’t think the movies without them are generally regarded as highly as the ones made with them.
 
Tom P.

Tom P.

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coffeefan said:
Sure they can, but that's eliminating Pixar's competitive advantage. If this is a sign of Pixar's future then they will be a shell of their former self, with only sequels to movies created during their golden years having tremendous success.
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It's not a sign of Pixar's future. It's a sign of their present. That's where they are now.
 
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DKampy

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Disney Irish said:
Lets take this weekends movie, F1, an original and by all accounts a really good movie, both high critics and audience scores (just like Elio). And yet, while it is #1 for the weekend only brought in $55M. That isn't a huge haul for a movie these days, not compared to many of the blockbuster franchises of the last decade or so. And especially not compared to its budget of $300M. The long and short, so far few have showed up for it. Now that may change in the coming weeks, but doubt it not with a bunch of franchise movies coming out to flood the market.
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I agree that Original movies are not bringing the crowds for the most part…However in defense of F1 I think we won’t get an idea where the movie is trending till the drop off next week… IMO… 57 million is great for what original movies typically open at these days….which the original projection I saw were around 35…. And the gross kept improving from there… which says there is some word of mouth there

I saw F1 this weekend at our Dolby ultra screen on Sunday…the theater was nearly sold out except for the front couple of rows…. which has me thinking maybe this is one of those films that people need to see on a premium screen.., granted our local theater usually does decent… no matter what movie I see there is usually a sizable crowd… but that was a surprise to me…. Our largest theater being that crowded for a non holiday Sunday matinee for a film being shown in multiple theaters…. I am guessing the other theaters were more sparse then usual
 

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