DHS Monster Inc Land Coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios

JackCH

JackCH

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Andrew C said:
Is this to mean that newer coasters can only be stuck in warehouses? This isn't really a shot at what they have done with the new coasters, but they could do more with theming the buildings they are put in to if they wanted to do so...
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I think it is more just a consequence of them being entirely indoor coasters. All the really well themed ones are outdoor. Space being the exception.
 
BrianLo

BrianLo

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Casper Gutman said:
Tron. Guardians. Monsters. Big clunky warehouses just sort of stuck there. Compare them to Thunder or Matterhorn or even Space. Just an immense difference.
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We have fallen into some sort of financial cycle that is driving these things. Because it’s not just WDW; granted the Universal ones don’t even generally go in boxes.

It’s odd. Partially because it’s such a thing in the Florida market and then isn’t in Anaheim.

I made posts years ago now that I really felt the a la carting was going to change the calculus on development. Partially that it would drive it, but with an inane single focus on marketable E tickets. That seems to have gone one step further with a clear reflection on it almost doesn’t matter what it is, a coaster will always move add on passes.


The only vague hope I’m left with from this is there is a bit of financial incentive to do something with Imagination and Space Mountain.
 
Disney Analyst

Disney Analyst

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Casper Gutman said:
The post you’re responding to made it clear that the placement of the box on the map was arbitrary. There is absolutely ample space to orient the ride building to allow for a substantial miniland. Even as the poster positions it, all of AC - which we have considered a land or miniland for decades - could be converted to Monsters. Why, it even has a show space for the big Monsters show.

The idea that new lands need immense space is also deeply incorrect, a product of modern Disney’s incompetence. Compare the profound, sprawling failure of TSL to the tight brilliance of New Orleans Square (like Monsters, an urban setting) which features perhaps the two greatest rides in the Disney pantheon. Skilled designers can do a lot with relatively little space - in fact, such a layout would benefit an IP like Monsters.
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I agree and disagree to an extent. It really depends on what is attached to the land.

New Orleans Square proper has a ride exit, shops, and restaurants. It works, because it doesn’t get overwhelmed with crowds trying to access a major attraction, and even then, the walkways in front of the river turn into a nightmare due to Pirates.

I just can’t see a small intimate land like NOS working if attached to a major IP and attraction like the door coaster. It would be a crowded nightmare.
 
BrianLo

BrianLo

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lazyboy97o said:
They don’t really plan that far out. Theme parks also abhor empty space, so making space now would give it time to be filled up with other uses. Then we’re just in the same situation as the old animation facilities.
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I agree. Any sort of future circular expansion opportunity is merely happenstance.

They’ve already pushed the building back once between concept art cycles. There’s going to be a lot of dead space.
 
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doctornick

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So, with the plans showing that the ride/show building is kind of far back, what does that mean for the space between the ride and the current courtyard space. The updated concept art does show more open area there, but I hope that this means that the covered area on the left (as you walk to the ride) might be a play area as we had seen suggested in previous concept art. DHS could use such a space since the loss of the HISTK playground and there does seem room to be able to add that. Would help at least a bit to "round off" the land.
 
Andrew C

Andrew C

You know what's funny?
BrianLo said:
I think cosmic rewind is still the most expensive coaster either operator has ever built. By a sizable margin.
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That is kind of the problem. I know it costs a lot of build this stuff nowadays, but it seems really inflated at times when it comes to Disney. With that being said, I am no expert...
 
Andrew C

Andrew C

You know what's funny?
Disney Analyst said:
Of course. Pros and cons for everything. But I think for DHS, it needs these sorts of attractions. It can’t afford to build something new and major, to have it shut down throughout the day.
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A door coaster inside makes absolute sense. I just expect we see an ugly warehouse. But we will see...
 
TrainsOfDisney

TrainsOfDisney

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danlb_2000 said:
What was posted today isn't a "plan" it's a building location CFTOD mapping site, it wouldn't show anything about roads.
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Yes, but the building being pushed back to allow space for the service road seems to indicate the road will stay. At least to me.

For the record I don’t care what they do with the road - just the way I’m seeing it. Haha.
 
lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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Disney Analyst said:
I agree and disagree to an extent. It really depends on what is attached to the land.

New Orleans Square proper has a ride exit, shops, and restaurants. It works, because it doesn’t get overwhelmed with crowds trying to access a major attraction, and even then, the walkways in front of the river turn into a nightmare due to Pirates.

I just can’t see a small intimate land like NOS working if attached to a major IP and attraction like the door coaster. It would be a crowded nightmare.
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You don’t have to have the same scale to use the same principles of spatial organization. Just plopping down boxes is not the only way to handle large crowds.
 

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