HMF
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Which is apparently too violent for todays guests.
The History of the "Heart" of Disney's Haunted Mansion
The Haunted Mansion's Attic Scene's evolution through the years.
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Agent H
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I still don’t like the new bride in Disneyland and how they just copied phantom manor’s story.Which is apparently too violent for todays guests.
The History of the "Heart" of Disney's Haunted Mansion
The Haunted Mansion's Attic Scene's evolution through the years.
HMF
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If it makes you feel any better. They failed to remove the connection to the stretching room portrait which explicitly says she is an ax-murderer from the George and Constance portrait.
Goofyernmost
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Once upon a time, in a place of cold air, I was one of the biggest and most obsessive fans of WDW. I loved it from the time I turned onto World Drive from 192 and obsessed continuously over the years. I started planning my next trip (or as much as I ever planned, mostly the next February) the moment I left for home. I wanted to be there, I daydreamed about the place, I tried to find ways that economically allowed me to work there and there wasn't ever a conversation that I was in that didn't at some point turn into a discussion about WDW with friends or strangers. I took courses to be a Travel Agent and even tried to organize a get together were I would show slides and movies of WDW and try and sell first timers on the place. I lived over and over the first family trip in 1983, I wrote it all down that next year. I still have it someplace, just don't remember where.
Yes, indeed! I had the fever. Then I got old and at the same time Disney started to raise the rates exponentially. They found ways to charge for things that once were included in the price of a ticket to the point where you now pay over $100.00 a day just to have the privilage of walking randomly through the parks. Aside from a few mediocre rides almost nothing was a reasonable wait to experience. I have always been a person that did minimal planning. I knew what I wanted and just went there when the mood hit me then they required a commitment of a specific park to be in at a date around 6 months away. Three star hotels were priced like a Six star one, food was priced at some almost immoral amounts of money.
Those of us that were loyal supporters even used to set up meet and greets with other fans in our hometowns, strangers, just to exchange observations and ideas with the same obsession. Many of us got priced out. We made the place popular and then we were excluded. Those of you that never saw or experienced the Disney Parks in the early years think we are just a bunch of whiners but we know what once was and it was far more than is offered today.
So because of that the total obsession faded quickly when I realized that I no longer fit the profile of a wanted Disney fan to the Disney Company. That means that my opinion now differs from those of more recent guests. As much as I loved the place, I don't foresee any reason that would send me back again. The magic died for me just before the Pandemic. I stay on this sight and others because I like conversing with those of you that are currently active park attenders, but I no longer belong.
Yes, indeed! I had the fever. Then I got old and at the same time Disney started to raise the rates exponentially. They found ways to charge for things that once were included in the price of a ticket to the point where you now pay over $100.00 a day just to have the privilage of walking randomly through the parks. Aside from a few mediocre rides almost nothing was a reasonable wait to experience. I have always been a person that did minimal planning. I knew what I wanted and just went there when the mood hit me then they required a commitment of a specific park to be in at a date around 6 months away. Three star hotels were priced like a Six star one, food was priced at some almost immoral amounts of money.
Those of us that were loyal supporters even used to set up meet and greets with other fans in our hometowns, strangers, just to exchange observations and ideas with the same obsession. Many of us got priced out. We made the place popular and then we were excluded. Those of you that never saw or experienced the Disney Parks in the early years think we are just a bunch of whiners but we know what once was and it was far more than is offered today.
So because of that the total obsession faded quickly when I realized that I no longer fit the profile of a wanted Disney fan to the Disney Company. That means that my opinion now differs from those of more recent guests. As much as I loved the place, I don't foresee any reason that would send me back again. The magic died for me just before the Pandemic. I stay on this sight and others because I like conversing with those of you that are currently active park attenders, but I no longer belong.
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Marc Davis Fan
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I am, and I generally enjoy the rustic log cabin aesthetic.
The Wilderness Lodge doesn’t feel that way to me. As mentioned, it feels too oversized and boxy, rather than emanating the coziness I associate with log cabin styles.
I do like the Boulder Ridge Villas lobby, and I think it’s because the shape and scale seem to fit the log cabin aesthetic more.
The Empress Lilly
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A remnant of the 1990's. That time when Disney tried to present itself as too cool for Disney, ripping out classic rides it thought uncool or redoing them 'Under New Management', and the parks - indeed culture in general - being consumed ironically.
The Lion King dissing on Small World made a generation believe that the correct Disney way was to joke about how bad it all is, how annoying the Small World music is.
The Empress Lilly
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Disneyland very much was a pleasure ground for 55 year old men, living out their memories of 1910's small towns, or young boy fantasies carved by early century adventure books and films set in exotic locales or the Wild West, or big boy fantasies of spaceships and racecars and submarines.
From about 1990 Disney parks and resorts became infantilised, scary stuff removed, guns removed, models clad prudishly, cartoons no longer contained to Fantasyland, EPCOT Center undone. The MK Fantasyland's main experience for its first decades was boarding a submarine that went on to battle sea monsters, while the castle shop sold swords. Now the main experience is being tarted up in the castle then meeting a college student pretending to be a cartoon character.
More kid centered, more infantile. This, in turn, attracts a new kind of adult to Disney, sometimes bordering on arrested development ones, five year olds in a mature body being attracted to entertainment geared towards kids, to the memory of safe spaces these provide. The 'Disney adult' of 2025 is very different from the 1955 or 1980 'adult visiting Disney'.
donaldtoo
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Same.
I have a strong connection to the song, based in my early childhood. It was the first attraction we visited on our first trip to Disneyland, in the summer of ‘68. At the time, I was 5 years old and had 2 younger bros (lil’ sis’ wouldn’t come along ‘til ‘75).
Our Mother used to break out singing the song (not belting it out
) from time to time, including while putting us to bed at night. She’s still with us at age 86 (as well as Pop at age 92).Anyway, the song dose not bug me in the least, and never has…it makes me smile…!!!
FutureCEO
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The Disney adult of today is the worst. To them, Disney can do no wrong and is perfect in everything they do.
solidyne
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100% this. I consider myself the latter, but my non-Disney friends just assume I'm the former and will mock accordingly.
Tony the Tigger
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So many that I won’t remember them all. (There may be edits! 
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I like WDW better than DL.
I don’t mind IP in the parks.
Frozen is fine right where it is (but the part where you meet Elsa in her castle is the worst scene. It could use some architectural touches.)
Tiana’s Bayou Adventure is an upgrade over Splash Mountain.
I don’t see why the Villains from all different movies would all get together.
I’m so sick of hearing about Horizons.
Flying Fish was better before they changed chefs.
Alcohol in the parks has been a major plus.
Control your children at least as much as my mother did.
It’s time for a movie with an unapologetically gay main character.
I do not like most computer animation, especially of humans.
Polar Express is the worst Christmas movie. (Whoops, wrong forum.)
Who cares if you put WDW on a cc as long as it isn’t there for years.
I have no problem with live action remakes in theory.
Yes, Luke totally would have done that. And that.
70% of Andor was boring.
We need more Tigger!
)I like WDW better than DL.
I don’t mind IP in the parks.
Frozen is fine right where it is (but the part where you meet Elsa in her castle is the worst scene. It could use some architectural touches.)
Tiana’s Bayou Adventure is an upgrade over Splash Mountain.
I don’t see why the Villains from all different movies would all get together.
I’m so sick of hearing about Horizons.
Flying Fish was better before they changed chefs.
Alcohol in the parks has been a major plus.
Control your children at least as much as my mother did.
It’s time for a movie with an unapologetically gay main character.
I do not like most computer animation, especially of humans.
Polar Express is the worst Christmas movie. (Whoops, wrong forum.)
Who cares if you put WDW on a cc as long as it isn’t there for years.
I have no problem with live action remakes in theory.
Yes, Luke totally would have done that. And that.
70% of Andor was boring.
We need more Tigger!
The Empress Lilly
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Yes, yes
Yes. DL is the best park, but both prime MK and EPCOT were even better. DCA isn't even as good as Disney Springs.
Balance. Main Streets and Peter Pans.
No. Nope. No.
'Horizons...EPCOT Center...' will be my dying words.
graphite1326
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Bored and jaded maybe. But they keep removing my favorite rides. Alien Encounter, The Great Movie Ride, soon to be changed RocknRollercoaster (Aerosmith fan and can't stand the muppets), For those that like the Beauty and the Beast show, I haven't been since they took Four for a Dollar away and they were the only reason I went to the show. Loved Citizens of Hollywood and the show at Great Britain. Just to name a few.
Chi84
Premium Member
That’s a bit strong. What I meant was the adults who visit today do so primarily to have a great time with their kids (and are able to enjoy several things directed toward adults as well).
Maybe I shouldn’t have used “Disney adult” because I don’t give the term that connotation.
Agent H
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Well this is unnecessarily rude.
Chi84
Premium Member
That’s more what I thought of as a Disney adult, although I doubt they think Disney is perfect.
I thought of them more as adults who enjoy what Disney has to offer and can have a great time there even without kids.
Tony the Tigger
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I’ve long thought they should put back either the submarines or some kind of boat ride. The Nemo subs were a highlight of visiting DL (if a bit claustrophobic for me!)
I’ve also long thought they could make better use of the castle. Keep the dinners if you like (I’ve never done it) but add something. I don’t know how much available space there is, so I can’t really make a suggestion.
I’d say often.
At 53 years old, when I read comments like this, I have to check myself! However, as I’ve gotten older, we focus much more on the resorts and the nice dinners than the rides. I think that’s healthy. As a business owner, it’s also one of the only places I can go that really is a “bubble“ where I can give myself permission to unplug at least a lot more than I normally can, and for whatever reason, more than if I go to Key West or anywhere else. It’s a true break.
We can drink now!
and, in all seriousness, it’s become more socially acceptable (to go without kids/alone.)
Goofyernmost
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My obsession lasted well into my 60's. I was an adult and I still enjoyed the rides but refused to partake of the over priced resorts and restaurants. So, happily, my inner child lasted longer than most others, I guess. It neither meant that I had arrested development nor was it something that I expected others would judge as that. Perhaps it is jealousy because I was still able to enjoy the simple things of life, if only for the duration of my visits. I became quite the adult upon leaving. So since none of us know the motivation of older people or their thought patterns it might be a better idea to stop judging and just do whatever you like because frankly what others do, if legal, is none of anyone else's business.
Chi84
Premium Member
I just thought a Disney adult was an adult who enjoys Disney independent of kids. It seems everything has to have a pejorative connotation these days.
Goofyernmost
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Yeah, sad isn't it?