News Coco Boat Ride Coming to Disney California Adventure

[TheDisneyParksfanC8]

I think his second theory is probably correct. I think that concept art is showing a space currently backstage behind the coaster, not the parade gate location.

True. They gotta save the paradise gardens area for the eventual bridge to the Simba lot.

 

[dlr74]

Disney put out in the press, the building expansion would take place where area is traditionally back house where guest do not enter. So the building will be behind the roller coaster.
I’m not sure why these YouTube influencers would so over dramatic about the expansion of Coco.

Disney said that the attraction is being built in "areas that are predominantly backstage today".

We don't know exactly where the concept art with the archway facade is. Many folks speculated that it's where the wooden parade gate exists today. I disagree and think the concept art is showing an area behind the coaster

 

[Disney Analyst]

Disney said that the attraction is being built in "areas that are predominantly backstage today".

We don't know exactly where the concept art with the archway facade is. Many folks speculated that it's where the wooden parade gate exists today. I disagree and think the concept art is showing an area behind the coaster

It’s the parade gate area, to reach the backstage area where the ride will be.

Disney worded this to confirm that Coco won’t be removing anything.

 

[dlr74]

It’s the parade gate area, to reach the backstage area where the ride will be.

Disney worded this to confirm that Coco won’t be removing anything.

Where did Disney say that the concept art with the archway is the parade gate?

 

[dlr74]

Personally I think the archway facade is likely to be in a different spot that's currently backstage. Moreso like this mockup by Hey Brickey.

I do think the parade gate will still be used to access the new area but I think the concept art is back farther like in this drawing.

 

[Gusey]

Where did Disney say that the concept art with the archway is the parade gate?

I can't find the tweet now but somebody compared the parade gate and the concept art. You can see the section of Incredicoaster on the left that goes around Inside Out and the planter that is just to the right of the parade gate

 

[dlr74]

I can't find the tweet now but somebody compared the parade gate and the concept art. You can see the section of Incredicoaster on the left that goes around Inside Out and the planter that is just to the right of the parade gate
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The section of Incredicoaster that goes around Inside Out has two levels and this artwork only shows one. I still think the coaster section we see here is another spot that's only visible backstage right now and is not the inside out helix.

The round planter doesn't confirm anything. There are dozens of round planters all over the parks that look just like that. It's probably a new one in the artwork...

 

[Disney Irish]

The section of Incredicoaster that goes around Inside Out has two levels and this artwork only shows one. I still think the coaster section we see here is another spot that's only visible backstage right now and is not the inside out helix.

The round planter doesn't confirm anything. There are dozens of round planters all over the parks that look just like that. It's probably a new one in the artwork...

Honestly why does it matter where the "arch" physically sits. The parade gate is being used as the path to get back there, and my bet is that it'll be themed to identify that path, my guess is an "arch" of some kind to keep with the Coco theming. So whether what the concept art shows is further back or not really is irrelevant, its still the same end result.

 

[DLR92]

The planter could be just a detail added into the concept art. Just displaying what it could look like. NOT what it will look like completely.

 

[dlr74]

Honestly why does it matter where the "arch" physically sits. The parade gate is being used as the path to get back there, and my bet is that it'll be themed to identify that path, my guess is an "arch" of some kind to keep with the Coco theming. So whether what the concept art shows is further back or not really is irrelevant, its still the same end result.

It's not that it "matters"

All I'm saying is that I disagree with this concept below that's being shared all over and presented as fact by many. It doesn't line up, in my opinion, & I was glad to see Hey Brickey have the same idea as me.

 

[Disney Irish]

It's not that it "matters"

All I'm saying is that I disagree with this concept below that's being shared all over and presented as fact by many. It doesn't line up, in my opinion, & I was glad to see Hey Brickey have the same idea as me.

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Either could be correct. But in all fairness it does match up pretty close to the parade gate area, it’s just that the foliage in the concept art blocks a lot of the Incredicoaster so you can’t really tell ifs it’s for sure the helix or backstage view. Either way it’s for sure going to have the entrance right there.

 

[Professortango1]

It's not that it "matters"

All I'm saying is that I disagree with this concept below that's being shared all over and presented as fact by many. It doesn't line up, in my opinion, & I was glad to see Hey Brickey have the same idea as me.

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I mean, the pictures do look pretty identical in the surroundings. Hard to ignore that.

 

[dlr74]

I mean, the pictures do look pretty identical in the surroundings. Hard to ignore that.

The only evidence being presented to support it looking identical, as you say, is the coaster existing on the left side and a circular planter.

The coaster looks like that from nearly every angle & location you can see it from. But additionally the real coaster in that spot by the wooden parade gate has two layers of track, and the concept art only shows one.

The round planter is not the same as the real life one shown in the boardwalk pizza and pasta. In fact the shape of the planter isn't even the same.

So to me (and apparently to Hey Brickey), that concept art is not showing us the parade gate location but rather a completely different place behind the coaster.

 

[wityblack]

I mean, the pictures do look pretty identical in the surroundings. Hard to ignore that.

Even with the palm trees.

 

[dlr74]

I'm thinking the parade gate area will open up to a sort of new entry way where you can enter and either turn right to go across the bridge to the new Disneyland Forward expansion, or turn left and see the Coco archway concept art

 

[Disney Irish]

The only evidence being presented to support it looking identical, as you say, is the coaster existing on the left side and a circular planter.

The coaster looks like that from nearly every angle & location you can see it from. But additionally the real coaster in that spot by the wooden parade gate has two layers of track, and the concept art only shows one.

The round planter is not the same as the real life one shown in the boardwalk pizza and pasta. In fact the shape of the planter isn't even the same.

So to me (and apparently to Hey Brickey), that concept art is not showing us the parade gate location but rather a completely different place behind the coaster.
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The part I think you don’t acknowledge though with what Brickey says, besides the fact that he laid out an alternative “plan” which even you don’t apparently think is likely, is that even he admits that Disney could have just not been as detailed in the concept art, ie they made a slight mistake and left off the helix. And I’ll even take it a step further, it wasn’t a mistake as it’s not an important detail to get the concept across so they just drew in the basic outline of the Incredicoaster.

Even going a step further beyond that, I think this idea that they’ll keep the parade gate (which is the point of his video) makes a bunch of assumptions like they keeping the parades in their existing building and Disney will just build the ride on top of it. That is a huge leap of logic that I can’t follow, sorry. There are other ways to keep parades in DCA without keeping that particular gate. And so I can’t jump through the logic hoops that he does just to put a square peg in a round hole.

Things may workout the way he says, but I just can’t wrap my head around it the way he lays it out. Just too much left open in my mind for that to all work.

 

[dlr74]

The part I think you don’t acknowledge though with what Brickey says, besides the fact that he laid out an alternative “plan” which even you don’t apparently think is likely, is that even he admits that Disney could have just not been as detailed in the concept art, ie they made a slight mistake and left off the helix. And I’ll even take it a step further, it wasn’t a mistake as it’s not an important detail to get the concept across so they just drew in the basic outline of the Incredicoaster.

Even going a step further beyond that, I think this idea that they’ll keep the parade gate (which is the point of his video) makes a bunch of assumptions like they keeping the parades in their existing building and Disney will just build the ride on top of it. That is a huge leap of logic that I can’t follow, sorry. There are other ways to keep parades in DCA without keeping that particular gate. And so I can’t jump through the logic hoops that he does just to put a square peg in a round hole.

Things may workout the way he says, but I just can’t wrap my head around it the way he lays it out. Just too much left open in my mind for that to all work.

Well, I don't necessarily agree with Hey Brickey that they would be keeping the parade gate in the place where it is today.

I think one of the big mysteries in general here is what happens to the parade building with this new project - is it actually safe? Or will they move it somewhere else? Or will they get rid of it altogether (meaning no more parades at DCA at all)?

My headcanon is like I said above, that the existing parade gate would be replaced with a new sort of plaza, where if you turn right you can cross the bridge over Disneyland Drive to get to the future expansion areas, and if you turn left you're faced with the Coco facade. So I suppose my vision eliminates the parade building & route altogether from that area.

Maybe there's a possibility that a new parade gate is built in a different place (maybe replacing Boardwalk Pizza & Pasta?), but I suppose that's dependent on where or if the parade building is saved or moved

 

[TheDisneyParksfanC8]

Maybe there's a possibility that a new parade gate is built in a different place (maybe replacing Boardwalk Pizza & Pasta?), but I suppose that's dependent on where or if the parade building is saved or moved

Space wise I dont think that is feasible. Plus. we could likely kiss any chance of Simba being used for DCA expansion good bye.

 

[Disney Analyst]

We will have to wait and see, but I just can’t see how they could maintain enough space with the existing service road to allow guests to somehow reach the Coco ride, and have parades exiting or starting.

And do we even know if the CarsLand parade building is still used for parade storage? I thought that one was converted to other uses, and they solely use the paradise pier one for storage? I guess they could go back to the CarsLand one if needed?

Either parades have to relocate somehow, or that’s the casualty they aren’t willing to admit yet.

 

[Touchdown]

OBB, their most popular and profitable seasonal event, is highly dependent on a parade to sell it. I don’t see them abandoning a parade at DCA, unless they move OBB back to DL proper.