disneylandtour
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Sure, if you remove Deadline from that list. There's endless daylight between THR, Variety and then Deadline.
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Elio (Pixar - June 2025)
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Phroobar
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Elemental had a Korean-based story so it did well there. Elio doesn't have that foreign appeal.
All of that came from Hollywood Reporter which is the "accepted" authority here.
Phroobar
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Yet it has such as small budget ($60m) that it doesn't have to do really well to make a profit.
Disney Irish
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Really I think we should stop trying to compare small-budget horror movies to other Hollywood releases. As there is a reason why there is a glut of them being released to the market, and why there is starting to be fatigue among them. Sure they hit profitability quicker, but they aren't immune from the same slow box office that we've seen over the last few years.
Animaniac93-98
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But it isn’t opening worldwide this weekend.
That's the number I read, should have clarified what % of international market it starts in this weekend (which I didn't see)
DisneyWarrior27
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This.
Disstevefan1
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I saw a review of Elio from a YouTube channel who are typically critical of Disney and they liked it, so let’s see what happens.
DisneyWarrior27
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Which YouTuber?
Sirwalterraleigh
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Disney Irish
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He is a former journalist turned film critic (because if you can't hack it as a journalist you become a film critic) who started a website/blog to "dish" on Hollywood, which often ends up just being either misinformed or just bad takes on all things Hollywood. Several posters around here over the last couple years have tried to push his "insights" on recent Disney movie budgets as gospel. This is why you have threads having wild swings in the budget ranges made by several posters (many who have now been banned from the site), until the trades come out with the actual budgets, and then they change to being conspiracy theorist claiming his site as proof of Disney lying when no one else can verify his claim.
Anyways, when any article uses his site as a "source" always take what is said with a huge truck load of salt. And unless it comes from another independent verified source doubt what is said.
Elio probably does have a lot to worry about from other movies that have some appeal to kids, even if they aren't "kids' movies", over the next few weeks: Jurassic World - Rebirth, Superman, even Fantastic Four - First Steps, given Disney's probably going to move straight on to promoting that movie rather than propping up Elio any further than they already have. Also, there's the whole thing with the How to Train Your Dragon remake continuing to post strong numbers.
When Wish had its dreadful third-place debut in November 2023 - and that was initially projected to be a much bigger deal by analysts - the two weekends that followed had no comparable big-studio releases on offer, but it wasn't enough to keep it afloat and let any positive word of mouth kick in (and it had a good Cinemascore from those who went that first weekend). And Disney did try to promote the film throughout December, rather than treat it as the lost cause it was. I don't think that's going to happen with Elio.
There is a part of the film I am genuinely surprised apparently doesn't have a content warning in the UK. It's very spoiler heavy so I won't give details, but a particular horrible real life thing is part of the film in a very insensitive way that is extremely shocking to anyone from the UK who remembers the news from 14-ish years ago. Nothing in the press about it though!
DisneyWarrior27
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OK, everyone.
The CinemaScore for Disney/Pixar's #Elio’s been revealed and it’s… exactly the same score #Elemental got: an “A.”
Thank god.
It didn’t get the “A-“ and “B” that 2022’s 2 sci-fi Disney films, Lightyear and Strange World, got and it’s the 1st sci-fi Disney or Pixar film since the original animated #LiloAndStitch from 2002 and #WallE from 2008 to get that score, and both went on to be box office hits/or award-winning films, too.
It might be premature of me to say this but this score MIGHT be a good sign for the legs of #Elio at the box office, just like #Elemental had, and we may as well see this film avoid losing money for Disney and either breaks even or becomes a sleeper hit, especially since a) it has no quality competition until #TheBadGuys2 on August 1st and b) the next animated film #Smurfs looks like a piece of garbage that will be the actual one to flop.
As Dan Murrell of Charts With Dan and formerly of Screen Junkies says, CinemaScore is usually a good indicator for how a film will perform at the box office and isn’t something that can be gamed or manipulated like an IMDB, Metacritic, or Rotten Tomatoes user score.
We’ll just have to wait and see.
The CinemaScore for Disney/Pixar's #Elio’s been revealed and it’s… exactly the same score #Elemental got: an “A.”
Thank god.
It didn’t get the “A-“ and “B” that 2022’s 2 sci-fi Disney films, Lightyear and Strange World, got and it’s the 1st sci-fi Disney or Pixar film since the original animated #LiloAndStitch from 2002 and #WallE from 2008 to get that score, and both went on to be box office hits/or award-winning films, too.
It might be premature of me to say this but this score MIGHT be a good sign for the legs of #Elio at the box office, just like #Elemental had, and we may as well see this film avoid losing money for Disney and either breaks even or becomes a sleeper hit, especially since a) it has no quality competition until #TheBadGuys2 on August 1st and b) the next animated film #Smurfs looks like a piece of garbage that will be the actual one to flop.
As Dan Murrell of Charts With Dan and formerly of Screen Junkies says, CinemaScore is usually a good indicator for how a film will perform at the box office and isn’t something that can be gamed or manipulated like an IMDB, Metacritic, or Rotten Tomatoes user score.
We’ll just have to wait and see.
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CoastalElite64
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Well, well, well, so reviews for Elio are solid after all. Now is time for certain naysayers to put their money where their mouth is about supporting original animation and about wanting investment in Tomorrowland.
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DisneyWarrior27
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I’m already doing that.
I’ve seen it three times already (two times in 3D and one time in Dolby Cinema).
I’ve got two more viewings planned today in 4DX 3D at 10:10 and the Pixar Buddies Fan Event showing in Dolby Cinema at 1PM.
I just hope more people do the same beyond just me.
TalkingHead
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To be fair, aren’t they all owned by Penske? So none of them is independent of their corporate overlord. Seems relevant when discussing their credibility.
DisneyWarrior27
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Vulture isn’t owned by Penske
To be honest I just go by what I read..,. And most that I read in those publications pan out…. So I find those reliable sources and they are trusted media among Hollywood
Animaniac93-98
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It's A+ for those under 25
83% PostTrack recommend
90% with audiences on RT (85% critics)
With reactions like this, why didn't Disney allow reviews earlier? Why didn't they captialize on this to raise word of mouth?
The expected $22 million opening is the lowest ever for a Pixar movie, even without adjusting for inflation.
It would need an amazing 5x multiplier just to get to $100 million domestically.
Disney dropped the ball on this one. It may not be Pixar's best, but by all accounts, they at least made a movie people liked.