MK Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

[peter11435]

Imagineering used to be able to straddle that line, but they seem to be drifting to the "demand side" of creation.

WDI, instead of giving us what you think we want, please give us what we didn't know we wanted! Surprise us!

The problem is that currently it’s not up to WDI. WDI does not decide what gets built and where. WDI doesn’t decide what needs replaced and what doesn’t. And WDI doesn’t dictate the long term creative vision for development. The design and build what they are told to where they are told to do it.

 

[solidyne]

The problem is that currently it’s not up to WDI. WDI does not decide what gets built and where. WDI doesn’t decide what needs replaced and what doesn’t. And WDI doesn’t dictate the long term creative vision for development. The design and build what they are told to where they are told to do it.

True. I shall change "WDI" to "Disney."

 

[phillip9698]

No. It seems to me like the general consensus is that at least the lower island of TSI could/should have been preserved while RoA would be truncated with the Belle still running a loop past the Mansion and Big Thunder.

And who does this “general consensus” consist of? Who was polled?

 

[DisDude33]

WDI [Edit: Disney], instead of giving us what you think we want, please give us what we didn't know we wanted! Surprise us!

What if they are have been trying to do that but we keep complaining and making such a backlash that stuff keeps getting dumbed down into products no one wants?

 

[Disstevefan1]

Definitely will come down to final execution - info think it any project will keep the scope/get extra budget if needed it will be this one as more than any other they have to get this one as right as possible and is basically Josh's legacy

Lets hope they get this right.

Not so sure about any extra budget as it seems they scope cut more times than they expand budgets when it comes to theme parks.

As for Josh's legacy, the will be appointed CEO LONG BEFORE Cars land opens and he will have many years to work on his legacy.

 

[Dreamer19]

Hard to say really what he would and would not do. What's not hard to say is that I wouldn't do this.

To me it doesn't matter whether or not an attraction has a demand that exceeds its capacity. To an accountant that's the only thing that adds value to an attraction. But not to me.

There are other factors that add value to an attraction. Theme parks needs a balance of attractions and for me anyway, it's actually important that some of them are walk on that really exist more for an atmosphere than a ride count.

Make me thing of a I've heard, "If everything is an emergency then nothing is an emergency" In the theme park world, If you don't have the simple A and B ticket attractions it takes away the value of the D and E attractions.

If everything's a D or E ticket then nothing is.

This move is obviously very controversial. Less controversial would have been a genuine expansion without the elimination of ROA.

Correct.

Once again, this decision is the cheap and easy way to go and the park will be worse off and less memorable for it.

If this ride is absolutely a slam dunk that completely redefines the essence of Disney Parks then I will eat my words.

My feeling, however, is that it will work (mechanically) slightly better than TBA, it will be more popular (since kids like cars), but the park overall will lose most of its charm and uniqueness (in Florida).

 

[DCBaker]

It appears most of the trees have now been cleared in the spot labeled 2 in the bioreconstruct aerial image below:



Area 2 photos:




Clearing has also now begun in the area labeled 3:

 

[HMF]

True. I shall change "WDI" to "Disney."

How about WDM? Walt Disney Marketeeering which is basically what they are now.

 

[easyrowrdw]

What if they are have been trying to do that but we keep complaining and making such a backlash that stuff keeps getting dumbed down into products no one wants?

How so? Do you have an example of what you’re thinking?

 

[phillip9698]

Correct.

Once again, this decision is the cheap and easy way to go and the park will be worse off and less memorable for it.

If this ride is absolutely a slam dunk that completely redefines the essence of Disney Parks then I will eat my words.

My feeling, however, is that it will work (mechanically) slightly better than TBA, it will be more popular (since kids like cars), but the park overall will lose most of its charm and uniqueness (in Florida).

Honest question. Why do so many want just a copy of what’s already in California? Why not MORE truly unique things?

WDW as a whole has so many of just worse versions of what’s in California.

More unique things that don’t already exist in the same country please.

 

[HMF]

Honest question. Why do so many want just a copy of what’s already in California? Why not MORE truly unique things?

WDW as a whole has so many of just worse versions of what’s in California.

More unique things that don’t already exist in the same country please.

Mostly because California tends to get the better things.

 

[Disone]

@phillip9698

I don't think that's it. It's not that they prefer a copy of something already in California, it's not even that they don't want cars Land. I think the popular opinion is they just don't want this new cars Land adventure to be replacing anything. They'd rather have it be a genuine addition.

Mostly because California tends to get the better things.

So true and then some

 

[phillip9698]

Mostly because California tends to get the better things.

Which feeds my overall hypothesis. The people most vocal about things like this are either local or at least within driving distance of Orlando.

Of course local people just want the closest thing they can get to Disneyland because they are local, they can just head there whenever.

But a person who has to fly in, they should want truly unique parks.

 

[Centauri Space Station]

Mostly because California tends to get the better things.

Riiiiiiiight……

 

[HMF]

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I won't disagree with those but at least 80% of the time Disneyland gets the superior version. DCA doesn't count because they have basically given up on any consistent theme.

 

[MisterPenguin]

I won't disagree with those but at least 80% of the time Disneyland gets the superior version. DCA doesn't count because they have basically given up on any consistent theme.

No true consistently-themed-land ride...

 

[CoastalElite64]

Which feeds my overall hypothesis. The people most vocal about things like this are either local or at least within driving distance of Orlando.

Of course local people just want the closest thing they can get to Disneyland because they are local, they can just head there whenever.

But a person who has to fly in, they should want truly unique parks.

100%. I want both parks to have unique attractions so my family has the best experience possible when we visit both parks.

 

[JackCH]

I think the vast majority of people will only visit one resort or the other, as such I am fine with cloning. My ideal would be that each park needs at least one signature land or group of attractions that are unique to it. To me, Carsland works as the signature for DCA and so I would rather it not be cloned. But other standalone attractions and stuff is fine.

 

[Centauri Space Station]

I think the vast majority of people will only visit one resort or the other, as such I am fine with cloning. My ideal would be that each park needs at least one signature land or group of attractions that are unique to it. To me, Carsland works as the signature for DCA and so I would rather it not be cloned. But other standalone attractions and stuff is fine.

Yes i also think SWGE works better at dhs over DLG

 

[JackCH]

Yes i also think SWGE works better at dhs over DLG

Oh yes. I would much rather have that space be for Villains at MK than SWGE, which fits much better at DHS.

But, I've said for a while I am overall okay with the Cars/Villains project as it finally starts to set MK apart from the other castle parks.