News Coco Boat Ride Coming to Disney California Adventure

[Disney Irish]

Twice and it has not been part of Mexico since the early 1800s

California is steep in both Mexican history and culture, even today. So just because it hasn’t been physically part of Mexico since 1848 doesn’t mean it’s still not tied to it in many ways today.

As a life long Californian trust me when I tell you that a story about Mexico fits thematically with DCAs “California” theme. And I say this as a person who thinks they should drop the “California” theme.

 

[Touchdown]

Not to mention if you consider the coaster the berm of the park, the Coco ride will technically be “south of the border” of DCA, literally.

 

[dlr74]

They wouldn't have to close for WOC. Splash never closed for Fantasmic.

Because Splash is considerably downstream in the river from where Fantasmic takes place.

Paradise Bay is much smaller and this Coco ride would be dead center in the bay...

 

[Too Many Hats]

Oh man you re more pessimistic than me but I wouldn't be surprised. I'm hoping for 5+ minutes. One drop (and it'll probably be no bigger than POTC's second drop) if we even get one. Cool effects and at least some scale/ staging on the level of HK's Frozen.

That'd be great; DCA desperately needs a dark/boat ride like that. But after Tiana, I'm lowering my expectations for all new stateside Disney attractions, especially those based on IP for family audiences.

 

[mickEblu]

That'd be great; DCA desperately needs a dark/boat ride like that. But after Tiana, I'm lowering my expectations for all new stateside Disney attractions, especially those based on IP for family audiences.

Yeah I get it. I’d like to think TBA is an anomaly due to the whole circus around that attraction but we have other examples of poor decisions when it comes to family attractions with most of them omitting the adventure, villains and suspense.

 

[Professortango1]

Because Splash is considerably downstream in the river from where Fantasmic takes place.

Paradise Bay is much smaller and this Coco ride would be dead center in the bay...

I'm talking about a little dip into the bay, a la Splash, not a boat traveling through the bay. This would be further away from the fountains than those watching the show.

The biggest reason they wouldn't do this isn't the bay and WOC, its because the "pier" isn't a real pier and its on solid ground rather than a raised surface, so this would involve them excavating the path under the pier.

 

[Architectural Guinea Pig]

I'm talking about a little dip into the bay, a la Splash, not a boat traveling through the bay. This would be further away from the fountains than those watching the show.

The biggest reason they wouldn't do this isn't the bay and WOC, its because the "pier" isn't a real pier and its on solid ground rather than a raised surface, so this would involve them excavating the path under the pier.View attachment 863925

This photo is stunning.

 

[coffeefan]

 

[BrianLo]

I don’t need it to be as large as pirates, but I definitely need it to feel more substantial than Navi or Tangled. It’s going to get huge waits.

My mental formula is that 60 seconds of thrill can replace 2.5 minutes of chill. So that’s generally why you’d feel a 2 minute thrill ride or a 5 minute chill ride are too short. But 3/7.5 minutes respectively feel good.

Frozen and B&TB in Tokyo arguably have some occasional moments of thrill and that’s why they seem to play so well.

Na’vi and Tangled I believe were both internally classified as C tickets. Or Na’vi was at least. I still suspect this is more a D ticket. Maybe 6-7 minutes of mostly chill.

 

[mickEblu]

My mental formula is that 60 seconds of thrill can replace 2.5 minutes of chill. So that’s generally why you’d feel a 2 minute thrill ride or a 5 minute chill ride are too short. But 3/7.5 minutes respectively feel good.

Frozen and B&TB in Tokyo arguably have some occasional moments of thrill and that’s why they seem to play so well.

Na’vi and Tangled I believe were both internally classified as C tickets. Or Na’vi was at least. I still suspect this is more a D ticket. Maybe 6-7 minutes of mostly chill.

Haha I like that formula. Makes sense that some thrill mixed in can make a ride feel richer and more well rounded thereby making up for a lower ride time. A tame 5 minute indoor boat/ dark ride is just something I don’t have experience with. I feel like that would be underwhelming initially. When you step on a boat at DLR, you are in for a long ride.

BatB has thrill?

 

[wityblack]

California Adventure works best when it represents the spirit and history of California, as well as the populations that live here. Having a Latin-American portion is great. In a non-IP world a boat ride centered around the California Missions would be a perfect fit. I also am glad they dedicated a section to Asian-American culture as well, although I wish it wasn't a quick retheme and that it actually had a ride.

 

[BrianLo]

BatB has thrill?

A large portion of the ride is like the dance sequence of MMRR. You can probably use a time gradient between a roller coaster and thrills you get from a dark ride. I also use thrill not just in terms of physical. Anticipation is also thrilling.

3-4 for a pure thrill and 7.5-10 for a very classic slow moving dark ride feels like a Goldilocks to me. Basically Cosmic Rewind and Haunted Mansion. 9-12 for ultra chill edutainment. In excess of those amounts we get into the very long ride window and you start getting into a curve where some people like that but others start to find it overwhelming or boring. Just below that Goldilocks is where I feel D tickets live and thrive. When you start throwing E ticket scale and scope but on C ticket ride times (and wait times) is where ride length complaints live.

Na’vi and Tangled are wonderful experiences if you wait less than 15 minutes.

 

[CoastalElite64]

I expect Coco will have some thrill when Ernesto de la Cruz shows up. He's a new era villain Disney likes to use.

 

[mickEblu]

A large portion of the ride is like the dance sequence of MMRR. You can probably use a time gradient between a roller coaster and thrills you get from a dark ride. I also use thrill not just in terms of physical. Anticipation is also thrilling.

3-4 for a pure thrill and 7.5-10 for a very classic slow moving dark ride feels like a Goldilocks to me. Basically Cosmic Rewind and Haunted Mansion. 9-12 for ultra chill edutainment. In excess of those amounts we get into the very long ride window and you start getting into a curve where some people like that but others start to find it overwhelming or boring. Just below that Goldilocks is where I feel D tickets live and thrive. When you start throwing E ticket scale and scope but on C ticket ride times (and wait times) is where ride length complaints live.

Na’vi and Tangled are wonderful experiences if you wait less than 15 minutes.

I agree - thats why I have always enjoyed Pooh at DL. I feel Ike you are getting more than what you invested.

As far as anticipation for me on MMRR for example that would pretty much only be reserved for the waterfall segment so I’m not sure I’d personally anticipate the dancing on BatB or find that thrilling on my 10th ride. I’d probably find it charming though.

Going back to Coco I’d be happy with a 5-6 minute ride that feels rich/ full with good staging, some cool new tech/ practical effects and one drop. Anything more I’ll be thrilled. Anything less, I’ll be slightly disappointed especially without the drop.

 

[BrianLo]

As far as anticipation for me on MMRR for example that would pretty much only be reserved for the waterfall segment so I’m not sure I’d personally anticipate the dancing on BatB or find that thrilling on my 10th ride. I’d probably find it charming though.

Sorry, my commentary started to meander towards my thesis. That part wasn’t about B&TB. I was thinking going up the lift hill on splash counting as thrill time. Or basically the entire run time of Tower of Terror.

 

[mickEblu]

Is Disney not interested in giving us a suspended UP ride? As much as I appreciate Redwood Creek for the kiddos I might be willing to give it up for an UP ride. Something sounds very appealing about boarding little houses with balloons on top and going on a suspended modern D to E ticket version of Peter Pan’s flight. Consider this my first post in Operation Manifest an UP ride at DCA.

Or I could see them building a sort of Pixar version of Disney Springs in the Simba lot one day. I think that sounds preferable to any large 10 acre + single IP land with any of the remaining/ unused IP. That exists now anyway.

 

[PiratesMansion]

Is Disney not interested in giving us a suspended UP ride? As much as I appreciate Redwood Creek for the kiddos I might be willing to give it up for an UP ride.

And gut one of the most charming areas of DCA and one of the few places you can get away from people within the park? Heck no.

Thankfully, that area might just stick around because I imagine hotel guests would rather look onto that than the back of a show building.

 

[mickEblu]

And gut one of the most charming areas of DCA and one of the few places you can get away from people within the park? Heck no.

Thankfully, that area might just stick around because I imagine hotel guests would rather look onto that than the back of a show building.

lol yea you’re right haha. Put it somewhere else. But if it’s going to happen for some ride I’d take an Up ride there.

 

[TheDisneyParksfanC8]

Is Disney not interested in giving us a suspended UP ride? As much as I appreciate Redwood Creek for the kiddos I might be willing to give it up for an UP ride. Something sounds very appealing about boarding little houses with balloons on top and going on a suspended modern D to E ticket version of Peter Pan’s flight. Consider this my first post in Operation Manifest an UP ride at DCA.

Or I could see them building a sort of Pixar version of Disney Springs in the Simba lot one day. I think that sounds preferable to any large 10 acre + single IP land with any of the remaining/ unused IP. That exists now anyway.

Back in 2017 there was the patent for the swinging pendelum ride people though would be used for Spider Man. That would be an ideal basis for a UP dark ride.

DCA is Pixared out IMO. I'd rather they use a different IP when the time comes for branching out into Simba.

 

[mickEblu]

Back in 2017 there was the patent for the swinging pendelum ride people though would be used for Spider Man. That would be an ideal basis for a UP dark ride.

DCA is Pixared out IMO. I'd rather they use a different IP when the time comes for branching out into Simba.

For me saying Pixar’d out is kind of like saying Disney’d out. Doesn’t really make sense to me as many of the films have very different settings, stories, characters etc. Unlike Marvel or Star Wars where everything feels a lot more similar. Pixar is a studio. Not an IP. Now I will say it’s unfortunate that they might have used up some of our goodwill on a bunch of rethemed carny rides.

I think when it comes to pure escapism, Up is near the top of the list of IP they have. I don’t even love the movie. Love the first 1/3. Don’t particularly care for the second half but I think it could translate into a great theme park ride.