It’s interesting. Walt took a lot of inspiration from Olmstead, who designed Central Park. Central Park was designed as an escape within the hustling and bustling chaos of one of the biggest cities in the world.
So, all those stories of people wondering why certain rides got updates shortly before their closure never happened?
This would be called "crying over spilled milk". AKA that time has already passed... those attractions are not having any influence because the consumers have already been conditioned away from them. Their presence is in effect, already being ignored. So taking them away isn't going to re-enforce the commando mentalty - it's already passed them over.
There certainly is a need for things 'not E tickets' - but I think it's mention in this conversation kind of muddies things up. Yes people want the various 'scale' attractions.. and the park NEEDS them.. the problem more central to this conversation is.. doesn't matter what Scale the thing is, if it's not attractive to or able to lure the customer in, they are going to pass it by more often than not.
I don't believe I said "all attractions", right? But if someone can provide me with info on attractions that had more than just token amounts of money/updates/repairs after their replacement had been announced and a date set for closure, or a source for that info, I would appreciate it. I would bet that Dinosaur isn't looking that great at the moment, and it will most likely get worse.
I wouldn't call it re-enforcement, but more like support it and almost reward it. "We know our guests want more attractions and fun things to do, so we will be replacing X with Y, a new, exciting area with things to do for the whole family!" And I fully agree that there will never be new areas like ROA/TSI, which have always been a staple of Disney theme parks since day 1. And the fact that a core element of Disney parks for decades is disappearing, never to return, is a big reason why some people are opposed to this kind of change.
Your sentence about parades makes me wonder if Disney will change the parade route. They have a big new path between Cars and Villains that meets up with Liberty Square.
I think there are some people who would not have a limit-anything would be open season in their opinion, even attractions that they have always loved. "I love it and I'm gonna miss it, but I'm soooooo excited to see the new attraction!"
I think the biggest issue that Disney has with "filler" attractions is that there isn't nearly enough of them, so the smaller attractions they do have get outsized wait times. A bit of a Catch-22 as this is because there is less to do in the parks, and those smaller attractions also have much lower capacity than E/D tickets. Unless Disney is gonna start opening expansions with the major ride (or two) being supplemented by another 2-3 spinner type attractions, instead of one E ticket and one D/C/B-ticket, it's always gonna be an uphill battle to actually make an impact on wait times. I feel like TSL is the prime example of that. They should have had 2-3 more Alien Spinning Saucer type attractions.
Nothing of note, no. Mainly because there's no equal comparisons. Nothing like ROA. The removal of say Haunted Mansion (blasphemous to the nth degree) isn't the same.. Some may feel that way of course but there's no 1:1 comparison that matches the intent behind your question. Obviously, any removal, of anything in the parks will be meet with some negative response.
And you know what? Good for them. I mean that.
That’s actually a pretty good mindset to have unless you’re into cultivating disappointment.
Any classic attraction that still draws alot of people should always have a bar that never will be cleared. One of the metrics that some people have repeated during the course of this discussion is the perceived low ridership of ROA/TSI, which should immediately disqualify attractions like HM, Peter Pan, Space Mountain, Pirates, etc., from being replaced. But I don't think anyone should trust Disney to look at it that way.
