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MK Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

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easyrowrdw

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ᗩLᘿᑕ ֊ᗩζᗩᗰ said:
MK is swapping out attractions that averaged a combined total of less than 7,000 guests a day with attractions that are expected to average 20,000 guests a day. A considerable net gain along with the more obvious food, footpath gains/loop. That's an expansion in my mind.
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More people might use the new land. More people probably visit Galaxy’s Edge than all the stuff it replaced. More probably ride Guardians than Ellen or Railway than Movie Ride. But that doesn’t mean they’re not replacements. They are. So is Cars land. Some say it’s a good replacement; some say it’s not. But it’s still a replacement.
 
peter11435

peter11435

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easyrowrdw said:
More people might use the new land. More people probably visit Galaxy’s Edge than all the stuff it replaced. More probably ride Guardians than Ellen or Railway than Movie Ride. But that doesn’t mean they’re not replacements. They are. So is Cars land. Some say it’s a good replacement; some say it’s not. But it’s still a replacement.
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Just because something is a replacement does not mean it can’t also be an expansion.
 
Disney Analyst

Disney Analyst

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easyrowrdw said:
More people might use the new land. More people probably visit Galaxy’s Edge than all the stuff it replaced. More probably ride Guardians than Ellen or Railway than Movie Ride. But that doesn’t mean they’re not replacements. They are. So is Cars land. Some say it’s a good replacement; some say it’s not. But it’s still a replacement.
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Sure if we want to get into semantics.

But in some of those cases (hello Ellen), leaving attractions that are past their prime is not very useful, and replacing was a smart choice.

But something can be a replacement, and seen as an expansion if it gets far more use, and gives guests something they will seek out and book trips for.
 
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easyrowrdw

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peter11435 said:
Just because something is a replacement does not mean it can’t also be an expansion.
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I guess it depends on how much one enjoys semantic word play. Two beautiful attractions are being destroyed to make way for Cars land. Net gains in foot traffic and dining (as if that’s what Liberty Belle and TSI were about) is the Disney legalese argument to try to distract from what is being lost. IMO, of course.
Disney Analyst said:
Sure if we want to get into semantics.

But in some of those cases (hello Ellen), leaving attractions that are past their prime is not very useful, and replacing was a smart choice.

But something can be a replacement, and seen as an expansion if it gets far more use, and gives guests something they will seek out and book trips for.
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I think calling replacements expansion is the semantics argument.
 
peter11435

peter11435

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easyrowrdw said:
I guess it depends on how much one enjoys semantic word play. Two beautiful attractions are being destroyed to make way for Cars land. Net gains in foot traffic and dining (as if that’s what Liberty Belle and TSI were about) is the Disney legalese argument to try to distract from what is being lost. IMO, of course.

I think calling replacements expansion is the semantics argument.
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It’s not word play. You’re just not being honest with yourself.

Two attractions are being destroyed. They are being destroyed so they can be replaced by 4 attractions. 4 Attractions that will have higher capacities and far higher utilization and popularity. It will also include Significant increases in walkable areas as well as multiple additional new food/beverage and merchandise locations. That is an expansion.
 
Chi84

Chi84

Premium Member
easyrowrdw said:
I guess it depends on how much one enjoys semantic word play. Two beautiful attractions are being destroyed to make way for Cars land. Net gains in foot traffic and dining (as if that’s what Liberty Belle and TSI were about) is the Disney legalese argument to try to distract from what is being lost. IMO, of course.

I think calling replacements expansion is the semantics argument.
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I don’t know. The water was pretty but weren’t the attractions underutilized? We visit often and I can’t remember the last time we even considered going on either of them.
 
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easyrowrdw

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peter11435 said:
It’s not word play. You’re just not being honest with yourself.

Two attractions are being destroyed. They are being destroyed so they can be replaced by 4 attractions. 4 Attractions that will have higher capacities and far higher utilization and popularity. It will also include Significant increases in walkable areas as well as multiple additional new food/beverage and merchandise locations. That is an expansion.
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What are the 4 attractions?
 
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easyrowrdw

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Chi84 said:
I don’t know. The water was pretty but weren’t the attractions underutilized? We visit often and I can’t remember the last time we even considered going on either of them.
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Probably. Though I do think Disney can be faulted for some of that. They’ve removed water activities over the years, never use the restaurant, and offered short hours on both the boat and island. I commented before (actually to you, I think) about some things I think they could have done to improve utilization. Instead, they let cut them back and then throw up their hands.
 

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