News Avatar Experience coming to Disneyland Resort

[Disney Irish]

Adjusting exposure, this looks like back of show building, and service /egress road:


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Its obvious they took the existing Backlot buildings and used in the concept art, again I wouldn't read too much into it on that side of it. As they aren't going to use it to say "Hey Avatar on the left".

 

[mickEblu]

this is why, while I think a lot of people on forums who are more open to conversation expressed genuine feelings, people on social media, like Twitter and Reddit have just become conditioned to be mad about quite literally everything that Disney does in the parks, whether they really deep in their soul care about it or not.

For a lot of these folks, if you really interrogate their feelings, you discover that they don’t really have a particular affinity for whatever is closing. They just have been trained to be mad that something is closing. And then some of them haven’t even been trying to be mad, they just pretend to be mad for attention bait on Twitter. It’s why I don’t listen to what any blue checks have to say.

To be fair I don’t think Bugs Land “backlash” came until AFTER people saw what it was replaced with.

 

[Disney Analyst]

I don't take it to be 100% accurate, so I wouldn't read too much into it. The actual could be a lot wider than what is depicted.

Sure, I mean, we can say that about all concept art. But based on what they've shown, and speculation from many including myself since they first mentioned Avatar, and where we thought it would go... I think it lines up, and that the concept for the new entry experience does show a much smaller area now, hugging backstage Disneyland.

Part of the sell for Disneyland Forward was them stating it would dictate what scale they could go with some of these things, AKA: DCA being pushed out of its boundaries to allow Avatar to fit in the old backlot.

 

[Disney Irish]

Hope not. I have no reason to believe so at the moment other than being a little worried about them saying they are early in the creative process.

I meant “don’t see” literally in terms of load/ unload. That makes sense and would be cool. Love the idea of the kinetic energy of having the boats go outside. Just wondering the impact on the ride experience and where that would occur.

I would still imagine that the majority of the ride would be in a show building.

 

[mickEblu]

I would still imagine that the majority of the ride would be in a show building.

Yeah. I’m sure any outdoor portion will be very brief.

 

[Disney Irish]

Sure, I mean, we can say that about all concept art. But based on what they've shown, and speculation from many including myself since they first mentioned Avatar, and where we thought it would go... I think it lines up, and that the concept for the new entry experience does show a much smaller area now, hugging backstage Disneyland.

Part of the sell for Disneyland Forward was them stating it would dictate what scale they could go with some of these things, AKA: DCA being pushed out of its boundaries to allow Avatar to fit in the old backlot.

Anything is possible. I was just wondering if we've overestimated just how much of the hub would be used for Avatar. I mean we've allocated quite a bit of it in many of our discussions. That may end up not being the case. And more of it goes to the bridge/security and it STILL looking similar to the concept art.

Also as has been said many times DLF was just a marketing pitch for zoning changes, not promises of actual projects beyond the EGW itself.

All of this to say that its very possible it still happens like has been discussed for the last 3 years, but I'm not going to be surprised if the actual comes out with less of the hub land being used for Avatar expansion than we expected.

 

[wityblack]

Not sure if this was pointed out, but you can see the boats going outside in the new concept art. I'm glad it seems like they are keeping that aspect of it.

 

[CoastalElite64]

Not sure if this was pointed out, but you can see the boats going outside in the new concept art. I'm glad it seems like they are keeping that aspect of it.

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The boats look narrower like TBA MK.

 

[Too Many Hats]

Sorry I'm not buying this "only half of the land will be used" idea. I understand what the announcement says, but I fully expect them to use the entire land that doesn't include Phil's and the Hyperion.

I hope they end up doing this.

I can't imagine them not building an Avatar themed restaurant.

I hope they end up doing this.

 

[Too Many Hats]

I don't think it'll be "less" because it's been describing it as a "Shanghai Pirates" experience. So that still leads to more of a E-ticket type of experience with a lengthy boat ride.

Has Disney actually described it this way? I know they mentioned POTC and HM when announcing Coco, but I thought the Shanghai Pirates comparison was purely fan speculation.

To be clear, I'd be all-in on a SoCal version of Shanghai's Pirates (even if a smaller version due to space constraints).

As far as land goes the assumption has been the current transportation hub would be included in the Avatar expansion when the EGW project is completed. But maybe more of the transportation hub will be taken up by the new bridge and new security area of the EGW than we originally thought.

I see. I'm very in favor of the EGW project, but of course I also want as much space as possible for the cool new ride.

 

[Too Many Hats]

Perhaps DCA doesn't need as much for children, when Disneyland is next door? The park stands to differentiate itself, especially when the majority visiting likely are AP's, our out of towners with a park hopper. Most of us treat it like one giant park anyway.

No compassion for the 34 year-old childless men who also enjoy Pixar-themed dark rides?

 

[Too Many Hats]

Assuming they'll push into the old bus loop, as most of us suspect, I think it's about 5.6 acres of space?


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Healthy plot of land for an E-ticket. I've been assuming it'd be an entire land, so I need to adjust my expectations.

 

[CaptinEO]

No compassion for the 34 year-old childless men who also enjoy Pixar-themed dark rides?

That's definitely Disneyland's demographic.

 

[mickEblu]

Coco is not enough. Disney might as well think about removing Goofy Sky School for another dark ride. I would prefer to balance out with a Disney classic cartoon though. To balance with the Little Mermaid.

I don’t think Goofys is enough space for modern dark ride, is it? I don’t even think it’s big enough for a C ticket.

 

[Disney Irish]

I don’t think Goofys is enough space for modern dark ride, is it? I don’t even think it’s big enough for a C ticket.

Depends on how much area we're talking about taking up, remember that was one of the areas we thought they might put Coco.

 

[DLR92]

I don’t think Goofys is enough space for modern dark ride, is it? I don’t even think it’s big enough for a C ticket.

Not if they can make it two story to make it worth it.

 

[mickEblu]

Depends on how much area we're talking about taking up, remember that was one of the areas we thought they might put Coco.

No I always thought that was far fetched land you’d have to include much of the area surrounding Goofys to even make it somewhat feasible.

 

[mickEblu]

Not if they can make it two story to make it worth it.

Haha I’d love to see their take an old school fantasyland dark ride to whatever extent possible of course.

 

[Too Many Hats]

I don’t think Goofys is enough space for modern dark ride, is it? I don’t even think it’s big enough for a C ticket.

Personally I'd be fine with bulldozing/reimagining this entire corner, but I understand that might be an unpopular opinion.

Haha I’d love to see their take an old school fantasyland dark ride to whatever extent possible of course.

Me too. Honestly I think it'd be an interesting challenge for WDI.

 

[DLR92]

Haha I’d love to see their take an old school fantasyland dark ride to whatever extent possible of course.

I don’t remember if it hold true if imagineers considered Roger Rabbit having track going outdoors for a bit. But I wish they bring that concept to the Pier.