MK Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

HMF

HMF

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truecoat said:
Reminds me of Planet Hollywood. I went to one when it first opened and it was interesting to see all these props and costumes from the movies. A few years later, I go back and I'm sitting under Stallone's lame- costume from Demolition Man. Some of these will not age well.

One day you might have a big, exciting E-ticket with a star-studded pre-show and one of the actors becomes today's OJ Simpson. Now you have to shut it down and either find a new theme or refilm all the scenes with some of the actors for the preshow and ride. Big Thunder, Space Mountain, and many others will never have that problem.
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Ellen's Energy Adventure anyone?
 
splah

splah

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With the addition of more water features, and the mention of "explore" and "trails" in the DPB post, I really hope they add in some walkable cave systems that pay homage to the ones on TSI.

BONUS POINTS if they integrate them to be able to look into the attraction like a splash mountain view from the train
 
MickeyLuv'r

MickeyLuv'r

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ToTBellHop said:
Hopefully, Fantasyland will be less slammed once people actually visit all those acres on the western side of the park.

Of course, for me, the quiet of TSI was a wonderful respite from a bustling park but I understand why that isn’t desirable operationally.
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The opposite might also be true. In order to enjoy the loud parts of a park, many people also need a quiet respite. As someone who has been active in Disney forums for a long time, the topic comes up all the time. I would almost go so far as to say most families enjoy theme parks more when the parks have a few quiet areas with lots of trees.

Indeed, one problem that Islands of Adventure has is the loud noise from Hulk, it is even quite audible at Royal Pacific. I notice it right away when I get to the hotel. It looks nice, but hearing Hulk somewhat wrecks the atmosphere. Noise pollution. The hotel would be much nicer, IMO, without the loud noise from Hulk.

Remove the quiet, and you might lose a significant number of parkgoers.
 
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AidenRodriguez731

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MickeyLuv'r said:
The opposite might also be true. In order to enjoy the loud parts of a park, many people also need a quiet respite. As someone who has been active in Disney forums for a long time, the topic comes up all the time. I would almost go so far as to say most families enjoy theme parks more when the parks have a few quiet areas with lots of trees.

Indeed, one problem that Islands of Adventure has is the loud noise from Hulk, it is even quite audible at Royal Pacific. I notice it right away when I get to the hotel. It looks nice, but hearing Hulk somewhat wrecks the atmosphere. Noise pollution. The hotel would be much nicer, IMO, without the loud noise from Hulk.

Remove the quiet, and you might lose a significant number of parkgoers.
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Let's be so real. I don't think a significant portion of parkgoers are going to be "lost" because of a lack of ROA, at worst it would result in people leaving a little early in the midday for a break which helps disney since less people for the same money + incentivizes the monorail hotels. Not to mention that Frontierland as a whole will still be pretty quiet and there are still zones of more toned down stuff through the park.
 
MickeyLuv'r

MickeyLuv'r

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AidenRodriguez731 said:
Let's be so real. I don't think a significant portion of parkgoers are going to be "lost" because of a lack of ROA, at worst it would result in people leaving a little early in the midday for a break which helps disney since less people for the same money + incentivizes the monorail hotels. Not to mention that Frontierland as a whole will still be pretty quiet and there are still zones of more toned down stuff through the park.
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Then why have so many theme and amusement parks been built this way- I mean with water (like a lake)?
Water+ amusement rides go together.

To be fair, I don't think we're always conscious of the draw, but humans are drawn to water like magnets.

Water has also been one of the things that sets apart the WDW hotels. I think the All-Stars and AKL are the only ones not next to water.

Also, I didn't say people would be lost. I was more saying they will be less relaxed. Or maybe I'm not saying this well, but I think the water is important to everyone's enjoyment of the park as a whole. MK is more than just LL.
 
mysto

mysto

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rle4lunch said:
I've always pointed out mag-lev technology to replace this. IT's literally the FUTURE! and pretty cool tech.
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Sounds risky. Seriously it's easy to build and has been around a very long time but doesn't show up in the real world, ever, really. There must be a catch. A catch such as no friction leading to uncontrollable speed, plus children.
 
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AidenRodriguez731

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MickeyLuv'r said:
Then why have so many theme and amusement parks been built this way- I mean with water (like a lake)?
Water+ amusement rides go together.

To be fair, I don't think we're always conscious of the draw, but humans are drawn to water like magnets.

Water has also been one of the things that sets apart the WDW hotels. I think the All-Stars and AKL are the only ones not next to water.

Also, I didn't say people would be lost. I was more saying they will be less relaxed. Or maybe I'm not saying this well, but I think the water is important to everyone's enjoyment of the park as a whole. MK is more than just LL.
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Water is cheap, covers up a lot of other problems and still keeps views. That’s all. There is not a meaningful portion of people who are going to look at MK and say “huh this river is not as big as it used to be, I didn’t enjoy my time and/or I’ve decided not to come back” There’s still water in multiple places in Magic Kingdom with this plan
 
Green Fox

Green Fox

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AidenRodriguez731 said:
Let's be so real. I don't think a significant portion of parkgoers are going to be "lost" because of a lack of ROA, at worst it would result in people leaving a little early in the midday for a break which helps disney since less people for the same money + incentivizes the monorail hotels. Not to mention that Frontierland as a whole will still be pretty quiet and there are still zones of more toned down stuff through the park.
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Except that people who have left the property aren't able to be buying stuff in your stores, restaurants, etc... (Although I went to WDW a few weeks ago for the first time after skipping multiple years, and as a general rule, property-wide, I felt much less tempted by the offerings from the shops than I ever have on previous trips.)
 
rle4lunch

rle4lunch

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mysto said:
Sounds risky. Seriously it's easy to build and has been around a very long time but doesn't show up in the real world, ever, really. There must be a catch. A catch such as no friction leading to uncontrollable speed, plus children.
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The alternating polarity also acts as a brake. It's being developed in the States, but yes it's slow going
 
Incomudro

Incomudro

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AidenRodriguez731 said:
Water is cheap, covers up a lot of other problems and still keeps views. That’s all. There is not a meaningful portion of people who are going to look at MK and say “huh this river is not as big as it used to be, I didn’t enjoy my time and/or I’ve decided not to come back” There’s still water in multiple places in Magic Kingdom with this plan
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That's not "all."
Water represents life.
We as animals recognize that on a primitive level.
 
JD80

JD80

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Incomudro said:
I've got to be honest, I'm beginning to like the proposed use of the land of Tom Sawyer Island.
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I've been a proponent of wanting to do something good with part of the park for years. I even have it recorded on a podcast and I've like what they've been hinting at all along. Just takes some imagination and embracing change.

The whole rivers of America space is just wasted and not seen or considered by a majority of guests. I'm talking about all the space, just not's what visible from Frontierland.
 
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thomas998

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Green Fox said:
Except that people who have left the property aren't able to be buying stuff in your stores, restaurants, etc... (Although I went to WDW a few weeks ago for the first time after skipping multiple years, and as a general rule, property-wide, I felt much less tempted by the offerings from the shops than I ever have on previous trips.)
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I think the biggest reason you felt less tempted is that Disney has been in a race to the bottom when it comes to the merch they sell. I've been going since my parents took me the first year they opened and sometime in the 80's the merc seems to have started being a little less special... then in the 2000's it seemed to start an even steeper decline... by 2020 they at a point where maybe an international guest might see a reason to buy some of their junk, but if you live in the US you realized that a lot of the stuff was just a higher priced item you could find a Big Lots or Walmart. The upside is you no long need to stay in the parks as much as before because the shops aren't really worth the trouble of going in... if it wasn't for the need for some place to cool off I don't think we would ever bother with the shops on Mainstreet anymore... it isn't like you don't get forced to walk through a shop everytime you exit a ride.
 

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