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MK Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom
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TrainsOfDisney
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I think several of us have hopes that this will be the case. The loss of the riverboat is inexcusable.
James Alucobond
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I think pure expansion would logically be first, so Fire Mountain plot, Main Street bypasses, re-opening of Stitch space, etc. All of that could be done to ease losses during subsequent improvements and then ultimately expand capacity overall.
flynnibus
Premium Member
uhh.. Moana? Adventureland Treehouse? Pandora?
The attack on water features was a mid 20x0 period thing in the spirit of conservation... where fountains and smaller things were taken out all over. This really hasn't impacted major attraction elements.
rle4lunch
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Grizzly and Carsland continue to be impressive immersive rockwork and theming all these years later. Carsland at night is as close to accurate to the movie as you can get in real life. We can only hope that PP (terrible acronym) has as much effort put in to it.
DisDude33
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The train can be easier depending on where you’re going and how time you have to get there. Sometimes it’s actually much faster just to walk to your next destination.
Fountain in Ratatouille Plaza.
Amazing water jets with Illuminous.
Waterfall in RotR queue.
Lakeside Amphitheater in DAK.
Tha Realest
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It’s been used as a feature in just about every castle park. If it weren’t helpful in making these parks - the most successful of the Disney parks in their respective resorts - why did they keep replicating this feature?
Professortango1
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MK may be the most visited, but I've also known it to be one of the most divisive. It is the park I visit the least when heading to Florida as it's just a really discounted version of Disneyland without the key rides that I love at Disneyland (Rise, Indiana Jones, Pinocchio, Casey Jr, Mr Toad, Snow White, Alice) and clunkier versions of Space and Pirates. For many, even my Florida friends, the hope was that SDMT would be what MK was missing. It ended up being a huge disappointment for those wanting an excuse to visit MK. Tron was a step closer, but super short and not too aesthetically pleasing. In all honesty, I wish that Tron and Cosmic Rewind had been planned opposite, as Guardians fits TL far more and MK needed a hit, and Tron fits Epcot much better.
In my opinion, MK needs something like this. I wish they had not removed the ROA, but the WDW ROA wasn't as spectacular. I also wish they were adding a Tall Tales section to Frontierland rather than a Cars area, but if they can deliver something that is akin to RSR's level of enjoyment and beauty, then it will be a win for MK, no doubt.
Right now, Radiator Springs Racers is the sole driving force for me to visit DCA. Sure, I ride some other stuff when I am there, but what makes me walk across is the esplanade is RSR. And I don't even like the Cars films.
Right now, MK is the park most threatened by EU (for me.) My next Florida trip I am skipping MK and spending an extra day at EU. I don't have kids, but I can't imagine parents thinking Fantasyland looks more fun and interactive than Isle of Berk. I can't imagine teens clamoring for HM over Monsters Unchained or POTC over MOM.
Marc Davis Fan
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Yet, MK is the park that represents Disney to most visitors, and the one they will remember as "Disney." As such, it absolutely needs to blow people away. While I wish they were not replacing Rivers of America, I hope that Piston Peak and Villains Land contain the stunning terrain and groundbreaking massive-scale attractions needed to make MK a creative centerpiece of the theme park world again.
flyerjab
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Pandora is filled with water features.
LittleBuford
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To add to the answers you've already received, people are less concerned with what may be added than what may be taken away. And it seems they may be taking less of the river away than originally planned, which would be a good thing.
mattpeto
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Tron, 7DMT, HoP, PeopleMover, CoP, Bears - there are unique attractions at MK.
I also think people are too quick to dismiss entertainment at MK. Happily Ever After, the replacement for Wishes are both beloved shows. Obviously there are factors in Central Florida (being able to shoot off pyro daily, pyro launch points, bigger castle) give it a distinct advantage over Disneyland, but they shouldn't be discarded.
Festival of Fantasy, even if it's slightly modified from returning after Covid runs daily and it will be running simulatenously with Starlight. Disneyland didn't even run Magic Happens for the entire year and with PtN, there is no daily parade during the day.
Raineman
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If what you're looking for is wow factor, then I can understand why you think this way. But MK is still the flagship park at WDW, and it's appeal for decades now has never been the wow factor-it's appeal to most has been nostalgia, both in the subject matter (very few attractions/restaurants in MK are based on any IP introduced during and after the early 90s) and in the cherished memories of past visits. I am one of the "nostalgia" people, and WDW, and MK in particular, is changing in such a way as that nostalgia is being stripped away, as the focus is clearly moving away from people like me and towards guests from the younger generations who want "new" and "exciting" and newer IP, and that is the main reason that my desire to return to WDW has diminished significantly in the last 5-6 years. The balance between old and new that WDW has maintained so well for years is slipping away. I hope the newer generations enjoy the parks for years to come, but there will come a time when they will be lamenting the loss of their favorite attraction, and they will know exactly how and why us "nostalgia" people felt the way we feel about ROA.
FerretAfros
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That image is of Disneyland's TSI, whose layout is based on a napkin sketch that Walt created. While it kept his general layout, there were incremental changes over the years, most notably the Fantasmic! infrastructure in the early-90's, lawyer-guided removals in the late-90's (which mysteriously never hit the mirror-image copy in TDL), and Pirates Lair overlay in the 00's. About a third of the island was removed in 2016/17 when the river was shortened to make space for Galaxy's Edge, though the guest-facing areas saw minimal change.
The post is from April 2019, when Disneyland was gearing up for the May 2019 opening of Galaxy's Edge.
The Parks Blog didn't write a nostalgic post about Walt for warm fuzzies. It was to assuage fears of the new land's impacts on the park and say "I told you so" to people who doubted how the isolated, single-IP, tightly-scripted new land would fit in the park. Much like yesterday's release, the media team was doing damage control.
Disneyland's river was saved largely because of the popularity of Fantasmic! (whose popularity was ironically curtailed by the 2017 revisions to the show), not because of some wistful reverence for Walt. The river remains, but it's a shell of what it once was; instead of venturing off into the untamed wilderness, it's now full of theatrically staged tableaux nearly entirely within sight of walkways and guests to remind you that you're still in a theme park. The trip around the river is quick, even with the reduced speeds of the big boats, making it difficult to feel like it's taken you anywhere special.
The river remains and has a lot to look at, but the experience feels hollow now. The new land is out of scale with the rest of the park, is a dramatic thematic departure from the other lands, and ultimately wastes a lot of space at the most constrained Disney park on the planet. That's what the Parks Blog was bragging about, not a reverance for the guy who created the place. And somehow, that's still significantly better than what WDW is getting.
CoastalElite64
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Considering how much more advertising dollars go towards MK it should have a wider gap with DL. Now with Epic making a splash things will get shaky, it needed something big.
Joel
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Even if there hasn't been any change to the amount of water planned, it's still interesting that they would choose to emphasize it so much more now (both in the art and the blog post). If it makes some people feel better thinking that it's purely a coincidence and not in any way a response to fan reaction, whatever.
TheMaxRebo
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It seems like, based on at least what has been said in here, that the original plan did call for a lot of water (and definitely could see some in the original concept art).
Definitely possible they have increased it as plans further develop - also could just be they feel that aspect was underappreciated following the initial concept art premiere and they just wanted to further emphasize it now
Disgruntled Walt
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Sure, but getting rid of the ROA to put in the Cars thing isn't going to move the needle on that.