MK Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

[SoFloMagic]

We went last year and thought TSI was still pretty well maintained - simple animatronics were working, the guns all worked and made noise, etc

Now I think it is "dated" in not a modern attraction and definitely not ADA compliant, but it was in solid shape

I think the thing is that its clearly for children and 99% of children will like cars land more. So then its just disney vs people with nostalgia and they can't win that fight because change=bad to that crowd.

 

[Purduevian]

What does the colors mean?

Just trying to track the layout because I think it crosses over itself a few times.

 

[ToTBellHop]

Again, let's not over analyze concept art.

Please. We have 3 years to analyze every pixel. By Christmas, we will be criticizing the river for not having enough fish pictured. Pretty sure I see a Sea Bass! Time for another WDI research trip so we get the correct species installed.

 

[Purduevian]

Again, let's not over analyze concept art.

You aren't new here... we must freak out over everything!

 

[LittleBuford]

What bridge? The one with cars on it in the middle of the concept art? There absolutely is water there, but that's in the middle of the Cars area, not next to current Frontierland/Liberty Square. In front of CBJ there is only trees in the original concept art.

Towards the bottom left corner of the original concept art, you can see a bridge crossing over what looks like a strip of water that divides the new Cars area from the rest of Frontierland.

 

[JD80]

Please. We have 3 years to analyze every pixel. By Christmas, we will be criticizing the river for not having enough fish pictured. Pretty sure I see a Sea Bass! Time for another WDI research trip so we get the correct species installed.

I wonder what will last longer. Over analyzing the barstools in GEO-82 or whether or not the color of the water in the cartoon art matches what the water color is in real life.

 

[Charlie The Chatbox Ghost]

This whole post, if accurate and it pans out, does indeed alleviate a lot of concerns

The only way it wouldn't be accurate is if Disney was lying to media (possible) or if they scale back what they said (also possible). That said, it could be exactly what they're saying, and still not work. We'll have to see. I'm more optimistic but I'm still not sold.

*Tears down totally normal trees that've been part of the park for over 50 years*

" It's gotta be based on animated films because that's just what you do in Magic Kingdom."

No, no it's not!

It sounds stupid but I didn't even realize they're gonna be tearing down 50+ year old trees. Is there any way to save a tree that old, or is it impossible to move without killing it? I don't know much about moving trees, I know the Liberty Tree was moved when it was pretty mature but idk if that's a unique case or not.

Maybe Disney could save all the trees and reuse them for the new build? It'd probably be cheaper than buying fully mature trees, no?

 

[Tha Realest]

What feels like “1971?”

Our colons thanks to the crap we drank out of lead-lined decorative cups

 

[Charlie The Chatbox Ghost]

I’d never heard the term before it came up in this thread. Wikipedia takes me to this:

Laurentian Mixed Forest Province - Wikipedia

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According to Jim Korkis, “The company wanted those bears to be from the North Woods to better fit into the theme of the North Woods of Bear Country, and later, Critter Country.”

WDW Chronicles: The Story Behind the Country Bears

by Jim Korkis Disney Historian Feature Article This article appeared in the November 20, 2012 Issue #687 of ALL EARS® (ISSN: 1533-0753) Editor's Note: This story/information was accurate when it was published. Please be sure to confirm all current rates, information and other details before...

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I think people forget how fast and loose even the great Imagineers of the past played with the thematic logic of their creations. As long as something is well done, most people won’t mind if it doesn’t quite make sense.

Lol

 

[Ayla]

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Lol

Right? There is ZERO about the "country" bears that is like the Upper Midwest.

 

[ToTBellHop]

I wonder what will last longer. Over analyzing the barstools in GEO-82 or whether or not the color of the water in the cartoon art matches what the water color is in real life.

 

[Raineman]

The dismissive passive-aggressiveness in these comments today is off the charts. Hard to believe that, for a while, this thread was getting kinda quiet and stale. Not anymore. The dusters, doomers, and everyone in between are fired up again.

 

[Disney Analyst]

The dismissive passive-aggressiveness in these comments today is off the charts. Hard to believe that, for a while, this thread was getting kinda quiet and stale. Not anymore. The dusters, doomers, and everyone in between are fired up again.

The Great Disney Fan / Hater battle of 2025 continues.

 

[mickEblu]

I think it definitely did. Note the bridge by the mountain. You can even see hints of a boardwalk, just like the cartoon. The stream is so tiny, however, that it’s obscured by its surroundings.

Why are you convinced that the streams or rivers weren’t designed to be larger and that they only appear larger because of the new concept art style? Can’t it be both? Also why are you taking the original vague concept art as gospel?

 

[Charlie The Chatbox Ghost]

I think it definitely did. Note the bridge by the mountain. You can even see hints of a boardwalk, just like the cartoon. The stream is so tiny, however, that it’s obscured by its surroundings.

Mentioning the boardwalk, I think they might've implied it's staying? My notes are all based on what TC reported back, so when he said Disney said "the boardwalk would stay" I thought he just meant during construction to help with parade traffic flow. I guess there's a very real possibility that the construction will not touch the mainland side shore of the rivers, essentially just plopping it down on the island and then expanding the land a bit, making the river a little narrower.

 

[Agent H]

I'd like to see the Liberty Belle saved and moved to Adventureland to replace the Aladdin ride, as a restaurant or exploratory play experience. With an old tropical tramp steamer vibe it doesn't need to be kept pristine...
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This will happen 30 years from never. There’s a big difference between a spinner and a lake with a riverboat.

 

[Adventureland Veranda]

See ya later Liberty Belle!

More Disney, more family, more fun, and more folktales!

 

[Charlie The Chatbox Ghost]

Right? There is ZERO about the "country" bears that is like the Upper Midwest.

Oh I was saying "lol" just to point it out, I don't mind the bears being from the north, but I'm biased as I'm a northerner who lives in a rural area so I like that the bears are from a similar area. I always imagined them as from the PNW given Bear Country's design, so this isn't much different, just further into the midwest

 

[doctornick]

Towards the bottom left corner of the original concept art, you can see a bridge crossing over what looks like a strip of water that divides the new Cars area from the rest of Frontierland.

I guess I can see what you are talking about but that is still on the other side of trees from the main part of Frontierland which would prevent that area from being riverside.

Regardless, the new cartoony concept art definitely has water connecting to the current Liberty Belle dock which was not present in the previous concept art (the Liberty Belle dock was just sitting there isolated and landlocked). So, even if there was always "some" water, the fact that is extended to a larger area is a plus.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

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You fool! You fell victim to one of the classic blunders. The most famous of which is, 'never get involved in a land war in Asia,' but only slightly less well known is this: 'Never post something positive about Disney on the WDWagic Forums and expecting agreement' (laughing maniacally)".