Universal Epic Universe (South Expansion Complex) - Now Open!

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Definitely seems to be the first "public" acknowledgment from Universal that the long-term plan is two new portals, one between SNW and DU, and one between HP and HTTYD. From aerial photos, we know that seeding is taking place in the majority of the expansion plots (which means no plans to build there imminently/being reserved for much later) but the expansion plot next to SNW has no seeding taking place at all. If Epic is getting an expansion in the next 5 years, it will most likely be in that expansion plot

Didn’t we assume…I thought…that they would almost immediately start talking about expansion?

I mean…that is a time honored tactic. Epcot threw up new country posters in 1983…

It makes sense. The timing and their priorities are TBD…of course…but it is an opportunity for them.

They have a lot of opportunities there…they can totally revamp studios now if they want…they can expand and augment resorts…they can tweak IOA.

For the first time really…Comcast is a major theme park player that can no longer be ignored. It took 50 years to have this kinda competition.

This is also an opportunity for Disney. Get new leadership and stop listing sideways.

But i’m a dreamer

 

[Gusey]

Didn’t we assume…I thought…that they would almost immediately start talking about expansion?

I mean…that is a time honored tactic. Epcot threw up new country posters in 1983…

It makes sense. The timing and their priorities are TBD…of course…but it is an opportunity for them.

They have a lot of opportunities there…they can totally revamp studios now if they want…they can expand and augment resorts…they can tweak IOA.

For the first time really…Comcast is a major theme park player that can no longer be ignored. It took 50 years to have this kinda competition.

This is also an opportunity for Disney. Get new leadership and stop listing sideways.

But i’m a dreamer

We did have that one video where they said they have plans for new attractions at each of their Orlando parks, including Epic

 

[lazyboy97o]

We did have that one video where they said they have plans for new attractions at each of their Orlando parks, including Epic

“Plans” is a very loose term.

 

[Bob Harlem]

We did have that one video where they said they have plans for new attractions at each of their Orlando parks, including Epic

So far they have announced closures of rip-ride rockit in September (Now August 17th), and shutting down Volcano Bay for 6 months starting in Fall 2026.

That's about the most detail you'll get until much closer to the opening of what they are doing. Universal didn't announce velicoaster even when much of the structure was up.

There is stuff moving. There's already prep work for Rip Ride Rockit stuff visible in citywalk right now. And they went through the trouble of rerouting walkways and building a new ADA ramp to do so.

Simpsons has got about 3 years left. There's expansion space next to MIB, and whatever they can clear out now that epic offices are open, Fear Factor Stage area. Expansion next to Cat in the Hat in IOA, all of Lost Continent, and Toon Lagoon (and the toon theater) with tentative plans. They still could come back to Marvel also.

Very long term you can spot where parking garages are likely to go at Epic if they ever decide to build another park down there. (look for open faced intersections to nowhere).

Difference is Universal won't say anything at all about them until whatever they do is nearly 100% complete. The 6 month VB closure is a huge one. That's so tied into the vibe of Cabana Bay, Aventura, and Sapphire, it won't be for just a refurb.

 

[The Mom]

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[Sirwalterraleigh]

“Plans” is a very loose term.

As are “new” and “coming soon” down the road

 

[Gusey]

“Plans” is a very loose term.

Oh, 100%. At least we can see where the current plans for the parks seem to be, it's just whether they''ll A) stick to the current plans and B) announce said plans. The current plans seem to be in three categories:

• Definitely happening: Rip Ride Rockit Replacement, Volcano Bay major refurbishment, Celestial Park phase 2 dining (Italian/Mexican), Dragon drones at HTTYD,
• Inevitable: Lost Continent replacement, Simpsons replacement,
• Potentially happening at some point in the near-future: SNW expansion plot used, Fear Factor replacement, Wicked attractions somewhere at the resort

 

[MisterPenguin]

Celestial Park phase 2 dining (Italian/Mexican)

Are we sure that will happen like sooner than later?

Universal (and Disney) is known for letting empty buildings and plots remain empty indefinitely.

 

[Andrew25]

Supposedly, the SNW plot will be touched sooner than later. All of it? I'm unsure. But they know that Epic needs capacity additions.

They already started work on Rockit, and once they close it September, that should go up fast.

Are we sure that will happen like sooner than later?

Universal (and Disney) is known for letting empty buildings and plots remain empty indefinitely.

As early as December, if they want it. I think Epic has enough quick service dining capacity currently, so I'm very surprised this building got approved during construction and rushed to complete the exterior.

I'm hoping this place opens as more of a food hall with unique snack creations versus a traditional quick service. Epic is a lovely park to grab a snack/drink and walk around.

 

[JusticeDisney]

Supposedly, the SNW plot will be touched sooner than later. All of it? I'm unsure. But they know that Epic needs capacity additions.

They already started work on Rockit, and once they close it September, that should go up fast.


As early as December, if they want it. I think Epic has enough quick service dining capacity currently, so I'm very surprised this building got approved during construction and rushed to complete the exterior.

I'm hoping this place opens as more of a food hall with unique snack creations versus a traditional quick service. Epic is a lovely park to grab a snack/drink and walk around.

Have they announced what is going to replace RockIt?

 

[lazyboy97o]

Again, there is no plot that was intended for Super Nintendo World. Because they copied Japan it was not designed for expansion. The space next to the entrance was slated for a special events facility. Using it for Super Nintendo World expansion means ripping out a nice chunk of Toadstool Cafe. It is more likely that Super Nintendo World expansion would utilize one of the portal pads.

 

[celluloid]

The expansion plots are just that. Good Park design will feature at least some.

They are two portals worth of plot as the main ones.

Restructuring in everything else.

There are like two things that are maybe 20 to 30 percent likely if the rest of the greenlight gets development...but not crossed in t's or dotted in i's.

The other thing. Nothing, zilch and could be a property that reinvents or just coming out to the world like Potter was in the late 1990s when no one would think it for IOA. Exciting.
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The first one likely used within ten years and the second near 20. That is how these things tend to go.

 

[Bob Harlem]

Again, there is no plot that was intended for Super Nintendo World. Because they copied Japan it was not designed for expansion. The space next to the entrance was slated for a special events facility. Using it for Super Nintendo World expansion means ripping out a nice chunk of Toadstool Cafe. It is more likely that Super Nintendo World expansion would utilize one of the portal pads.

Orlando SNW does have an expansion opening wall on the north side that's there close to the Donkey Kong tunnel and restrooms. (Right now it's where they have some coke freestyle machines).

 

[lazyboy97o]

Orlando SNW does have an expansion opening wall on the north side that's there close to the Donkey Kong tunnel and restrooms. (Right now it's where they have some coke freestyle machines).

That space was not designed for expansion. There is structure (I’ve previously linked to photos) and infrastructure in the way that will have to be dealt with if it is used.

 

[Minnesota disney fan]

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Thank You, The Mom! I was hoping something would be done about the rudeness and hatefulness that has been on this thread. I like the thread, but the old arguments, name calling, and laugh emoji's just to irritate, were getting old. Thanks again for a great job

 

[Purduevian]

Again, there is no plot that was intended for Super Nintendo World. Because they copied Japan it was not designed for expansion. The space next to the entrance was slated for a special events facility. Using it for Super Nintendo World expansion means ripping out a nice chunk of Toadstool Cafe. It is more likely that Super Nintendo World expansion would utilize one of the portal pads.

Yeah I don't see any easy way out on the bottom right of this screen... maybe the tunnel could be on the second story? I think that's bowser Jr. right?

 

[Gusey]

That space was not designed for expansion. There is structure (I’ve previously linked to photos) and infrastructure in the way that will have to be dealt with if it is used.

This is the other side of those freestyle machines. There is a clear gap in the wall they could use if they were going to expand Nintendo into the plot between SNW and Dark Universe. Is this not the space SNW would be expanding into?

 

[Andrew25]

I don't care if it's Zelda, Luigi's, etc., just please make it partially indoors lol

 

[Purduevian]

This is the other side of those freestyle machines. There is a clear gap in the wall they could use if they were going to expand Nintendo into the plot between SNW and Dark Universe. Is this not the space SNW would be expanding into?

I think the general idea is that the plot between DK and Dark universe is for a new portal (just like the plot between stardust and HP).

There is a small expansion pad between SNW and the park entrance:

Side note... I wish google earth would update

 

[Andrew25]

I think the general idea is that the plot between DK and Dark universe is for a new portal (just like the plot between stardust and HP).

There is a small expansion pad between SNW and the park entrance:
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Side note... I wish google earth would update

This area highlighted was marked as a special event/entertainment area. There is no way for SNW to connect this way. The area between DU and SNW has a portal entrance marked, but it can easily lead to another SNW area.

Universal can get creative, and build another multi-level structure with Zelda taking up the 2nd floor and Luigi's Mansion on the first in an all-indoor area.