The Cars show it replaced only had one physical car. So... this is three times better!!what? 3...in total?
The Cars show it replaced only had one physical car. So... this is three times better!!what? 3...in total?
Saw pretty much the entire show on TikTok after a cast preview. Here's the Cruella section of the show (the user also posted the rest of the show in chunks on their account).
There's indeed a total of 3 live performers in the show (Cruella, Hook, and Mal); several villains are also portrayed by real actors but as pre-filmed content.
I guess I was expecting a different kind of show based on the marketing; they highlighted the original song to the point that I thought this would be a musical, but it turns out that's the only original music in the show. Each villain comes out, vamps a bit while their theme song plays, and then leaves. The end of the show is a cheer off for the audience to pick their favorite, and then it just ends. No fault of the actors though, they do a hell of a job selling scraps.
So odd. I hope the new Mermaid show is better.
Saw pretty much the entire show on TikTok after a cast preview. Here's the Cruella section of the show (the user also posted the rest of the show in chunks on their account).
There's indeed a total of 3 live performers in the show (Cruella, Hook, and Mal); several villains are also portrayed by real actors but as pre-filmed content.
I guess I was expecting a different kind of show based on the marketing; they highlighted the original song to the point that I thought this would be a musical, but it turns out that's the only original music in the show. Each villain comes out, vamps a bit while their theme song plays, and then leaves. The end of the show is a cheer off for the audience to pick their favorite, and then it just ends. No fault of the actors though, they do a hell of a job selling scraps.
So odd. I hope the new Mermaid show is better.
Saw pretty much the entire show on TikTok after a cast preview. Here's the Cruella section of the show (the user also posted the rest of the show in chunks on their account).
There's indeed a total of 3 live performers in the show (Cruella, Hook, and Mal); several villains are also portrayed by real actors but as pre-filmed content.
I guess I was expecting a different kind of show based on the marketing; they highlighted the original song to the point that I thought this would be a musical, but it turns out that's the only original music in the show. Each villain comes out, vamps a bit while their theme song plays, and then leaves. The end of the show is a cheer off for the audience to pick their favorite, and then it just ends. No fault of the actors though, they do a hell of a job selling scraps.
So odd. I hope the new Mermaid show is better.
Enchanted Tales with VillainsHuh. Not what I was expecting either, I was assuming it would be a short musical. This looks more like a super elaborate group character meet and greet.
From a company that used to hire well known composers to create entirely new songs for their shows... That song is off Broadway flop level of lyrics. Reminded me quite a bit of Trial Before Pilate from JCS actually, both lyrically and tone... But not in a good way. That's the kind of song you want close to the end of a show, not as a top number, from a musical theatre development perspective. The lyrics, well, they need massive amounts of work to sound like something not AI generated. Especially for Disney it's a huge miss.It actually looks pretty cool IMO -- but that song is still BRUTALLY corny.
Visually impressive is one thing DLE remembers how to do. Having seen the show from the leak, I'm not sure it works well. Or at all. It's camp, but without substance or interest.At least it’s visually impressive. Projection mapping is still very in on Broadway so it’s no surprise to see so much here.
Maybe it will come across as campy and work? While some villains can be silly in a sarcastic way, I’m struggling to see it with Maleficent.
Interested in seeing your opinion now that the whole show has essentially leaked...It is certainly video heavy - but it is well staged. Will be interesting to see the total performer count. From the video it looks like it needs more, but we will see.
It feel cheap. They can afford more. The actors we saw in the leak are pretty good (not much of them to really be able to tell), but are given precious little to work with. I've seen meet and greets with more meat in that regard!One performer at a time feels needlessly Covid era to me. Better hope the three actors you get are superb.
This is, though I could be wrong, the lowest amount of live performers in a theatre-based stage show ever at WDW. And, as far as I've checked, anywhere on property. A live supporting cast probably got cut (or never included) due to cost reasons. If this was a castle show, they'd do it, but this was clearly meant to be a stripped down and relatively cheap show to fill a space that had a show barely anyone was actually visiting (or knew was there). I expected something of quality, but after I heard how long it was, I had my doubts. Then they were undercut in the worst way imaginable!I am sure the performers will be top notch, they always are. I was hoping though there would be a supporting live cast in addition to the villains.
Saw pretty much the entire show on TikTok after a cast preview. Here's the Cruella section of the show (the user also posted the rest of the show in chunks on their account).
There's indeed a total of 3 live performers in the show (Cruella, Hook, and Mal); several villains are also portrayed by real actors but as pre-filmed content.
I guess I was expecting a different kind of show based on the marketing; they highlighted the original song to the point that I thought this would be a musical, but it turns out that's the only original music in the show. Each villain comes out, vamps a bit while their theme song plays, and then leaves. The end of the show is a cheer off for the audience to pick their favorite, and then it just ends. No fault of the actors though, they do a hell of a job selling scraps.
So odd. I hope the new Mermaid show is better.
I said exactly that when I watched the show! I've seen better projects come out of university classes. It feels like a project I'd have seen at one of my classes at Rosen, and I'm not sure how to feel about that. The bones of the idea work, no question about that. It just seems that we're going backwards. They could have written multiple origional sings for this show, and it would have cost them relatively little. They already are paying for everything else, so just an extra bit of time with the orchestra and a composer/lyracist isn't a terrible ask.What the hell was that? That entire show is beneath WDW. Massive disappointment.
It looks like the performers are lip synching, too.
There's ways to make this concept work for an hour, maybe 2, with the right writing team and creatives. If it's a promotion for a land that has yet to break ground, perhaps Disney should have made it more clear instead of the marketing campaign we got, which implied a more substantive show.I mean there wasn’t too much go on with the premise of the Villains.
It seems more like a promotion to get people excited to see them in the parks in a bigger capacity.
Depends on the design of the show in question. Looks like this theatre can sit a few hundred, and you seemingly have a full sized stage and backstage areas, so you could have as many as the show required. For me personally I wouldn't have written a charrette without thinking of using at least a castle show's worth of cast, so a dozen or two.Legitimate question for everyone. How many performers are appropriate for a theater this small?
I feel like 3-4 years might be a tad bit generous, but as you pointed out…This is likely a temporary show with a 3-4 year run so it doesn't surprise me that it's light on the number of performers.
Guess we’ll have to wait and see.WDW has a track record for turning temporary into permanent.
Legitimate question for everyone. How many performers are appropriate for a theater this small?
Frozen only has two more than this show. All three villains are on stage during the finale.I don't think it needs hundreds but even the Frozen Sing-along has more than this
... And to never have more than one performing at a time?
Would have liked all three of them out for chunky of it, and perhaps a few assistants/lackeys ..
So like 6 or 7 total would be nice
Yes I don't need to be told that the leaving attraction is leaving; I'm aware. I'm just commenting how on if they had a long view of the area, they could've configured this area as a mini-land with the coaster retheme instead of further fragmenting the park with haphazard temporary nonsense.They aren’t putting muppet-vision 3D in there. LenTesta did imply a while ago that a NEW muppet show COULD go in there after villains is done, but who knows about that at this point. Show isn’t even open yet.
Muppetvision is gone gone.
I think your expectations were way too high to begin with.From a company that used to hire well known composers to create entirely new songs for their shows... That song is off Broadway flop level of lyrics. Reminded me quite a bit of Trial Before Pilate from JCS actually, both lyrically and tone... But not in a good way. That's the kind of song you want close to the end of a show, not as a top number, from a musical theatre development perspective. The lyrics, well, they need massive amounts of work to sound like something not AI generated. Especially for Disney it's a huge miss.
Visually impressive is one thing DLE remembers how to do. Having seen the show from the leak, I'm not sure it works well. Or at all. It's camp, but without substance or interest.
Interested in seeing your opinion now that the whole show has essentially leaked...
It feel cheap. They can afford more. The actors we saw in the leak are pretty good (not much of them to really be able to tell), but are given precious little to work with. I've seen meet and greets with more meat in that regard!
This is, though I could be wrong, the lowest amount of live performers in a theatre-based stage show ever at WDW. And, as far as I've checked, anywhere on property. A live supporting cast probably got cut (or never included) due to cost reasons. If this was a castle show, they'd do it, but this was clearly meant to be a stripped down and relatively cheap show to fill a space that had a show barely anyone was actually visiting (or knew was there). I expected something of quality, but after I heard how long it was, I had my doubts. Then they were undercut in the worst way imaginable!
Somehow this defied even my low expectations. DLE can still make great material when they so choose (usually in Tokyo, occasionally the international parks or cruise ships), but how did they fall so short here? It's not only bad, it's kind of concerning. Scraps of content is an understatement - there's barely any to speak of. It feels like it's a mix between a meet and greet and a show that was thrown together (at considerable cost) at the last minute because they had a hole in their schedule of bigger projects... I really have no words to say, as someone who's dedicated countless hours to studing the evolution of live entertainement in the parks, how much of a step backwards this is. Even a kids of the kingdom style (or castle show as most people call them) show would have been better than this!
I said exactly that when I watched the show! I've seen better projects come out of university classes. It feels like a project I'd have seen at one of my classes at Rosen, and I'm not sure how to feel about that. The bones of the idea work, no question about that. It just seems that we're going backwards. They could have written multiple origional sings for this show, and it would have cost them relatively little. They already are paying for everything else, so just an extra bit of time with the orchestra and a composer/lyracist isn't a terrible ask.
I can't tell if they're lip synching, but I believe that this show was cast with live singing intended?
There's ways to make this concept work for an hour, maybe 2, with the right writing team and creatives. If it's a promotion for a land that has yet to break ground, perhaps Disney should have made it more clear instead of the marketing campaign we got, which implied a more substantive show.
8?Legitimate question for everyone. How many performers are appropriate for a theater this small?
Legitimate question for everyone. How many performers are appropriate for a theater this small?
I wasn’t envisioning Les Mis, ha ha, but maybe Cruella singing an “I’m positively passionate about puppies!” song where she tries to pretend she just loves dogs but occasionally throws in something like “… when I make them into coats… I mean make them little coats, make them little coats!!” Throw in a few fun visuals (she sings “And don’t we all look divine in spots!” as the light briefly cover the audience in Dalmatian spots) and I think it would be a fun show.A musical ????
Maybe my expectations weren’t too high but I thought the screens would be doing most of the heavy lifting.
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