DHS Monster Inc Land Coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios

TheMaxRebo

TheMaxRebo

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eddie104 said:
Still don’t understand the TSL hate but maybe I’m missing something.

How do you feel about Fantasy Springs in Tokyo ??
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I think TSL is a solid land with good theming, a variety or ride types, quick service and table service good, etc

I think it has some issues - lack of shade being the biggest. Also think could have got a only area or water play area or something in there to really round it out. But, other than the shade issue, probably one of the areas that needs updates the least
 
MisterPenguin

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
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TSL has the problem that many of the new 'mini-lands' have (including Potter and Rat and maybe all the portal lands of EU), which is this:

You create a narrow 'alley' for guests to get to popular rides that have a capacity of more than 2,000 people per hour. So, you have more than 2,000 people per hour constantly going in and out of that narrow mini-land.

Potter lands, Rat, and TSL always feel too crowded to me because of this.

The narrowness of the lands come about from lack of space, OR, to avoid sight-line issues. I'd gladly exchange a bad sight-line for the ability to be comfortable in one of these new mini-lands and be able to hang out in them.
 
The Leader of the Club

The Leader of the Club

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MisterPenguin said:
TSL has the problem that many of the new 'mini-lands' have (including Potter and Rat and maybe all the portal lands of EU), which is this:

You create a narrow 'alley' for guests to get to popular rides that have a capacity of more than 2,000 people per hour. So, you have more than 2,000 people per hour constantly going in and out of that narrow mini-land.

Potter lands, Rat, and TSL always feel too crowded to me because of this.

The narrowness of the lands come about from lack of space, OR, to avoid sight-line issues. I'd gladly exchange a bad sight-line for the ability to be comfortable in one of these new mini-lands and be able to hang out in them.
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Monstropolis is 100% going to suffer from this, even with Stage One out of the way.
 
eddie104

eddie104

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MisterPenguin said:
TSL has the problem that many of the new 'mini-lands' have (including Potter and Rat and maybe all the portal lands of EU), which is this:

You create a narrow 'alley' for guests to get to popular rides that have a capacity of more than 2,000 people per hour. So, you have more than 2,000 people per hour constantly going in and out of that narrow mini-land.

Potter lands, Rat, and TSL always feel too crowded to me because of this.

The narrowness of the lands come about from lack of space, OR, to avoid sight-line issues. I'd gladly exchange a bad sight-line for the ability to be comfortable in one of these new mini-lands and be able to hang out in them.
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Fair enough.

But people want to be immersed into their environments.

If creating a narrow pathway accomplishes that I think that’s fair trade off when designing these spaces.

Also Disney nor Uni can’t help the popularity of their parks.
 
MisterPenguin

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
eddie104 said:
Fair enough.

But people want to be immersed into their environments.

If creating a narrow pathway accomplishes that I think that’s fair trade off when designing these spaces.

Also Disney nor Uni can’t help the popularity of their parks.
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Pinch points are objectively a bad design. I would think the percentage of guests who are ok with being hardly able to move forward because of a dense meandering crowd is in the single digits.
 
TheMaxRebo

TheMaxRebo

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MisterPenguin said:
Pinch points are objectively a bad design. I would think the percentage of guests who are ok with being hardly able to move forward because of a dense meandering crowd is in the single digits.
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Maybe I have just been lucky but never experienced that at TSL

At the back area of France for Rat I absolutely hav but TSL connects two areas so can get in and out different ways and the entrances to the rides are off that path a bit, especially for SDD.

Maybe when the green army guys come out and people stop to watch but otherwise always found crowds flow pretty well through there.
 
UNCgolf

UNCgolf

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While I think almost everything about TSL is mediocre (Slinky Dog Dash is the best attraction and it probably wouldn't even crack a top 20 at WDW to me), that's all subjective.

The bigger issue is how poorly it's designed. It uses a huge plot of land but feels tiny; it's just one path and there's very little to see.

Compare it to Pandora, which is actually much smaller, or Galaxy's Edge, which isn't too much larger, and the issues are pretty obvious.
 
ToTBellHop

ToTBellHop

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UNCgolf said:
While I think almost everything about TSL is mediocre (Slinky Dog Dash is the best attraction and it probably wouldn't even crack a top 20 at WDW to me), that's all subjective.

The bigger issue is how poorly it's designed. It uses a huge plot of land but feels tiny; it's just one path and there's very little to see.

Compare it to Pandora, which is actually much smaller, or Galaxy's Edge, which isn't too much larger, and the issues are pretty obvious.
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I do wish they had packed it to the rafters with flat rides like Pixar Pier. The theme lends itself to it, they are reasonably cheap, and would have addressed a need at DHS. Saucers shouldn’t end up with 60-minute wait times but it does. And you have heat stroke by the time you board this time of year.
 
rle4lunch

rle4lunch

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TheMaxRebo said:
Maybe I have just been lucky but never experienced that at TSL

At the back area of France for Rat I absolutely hav but TSL connects two areas so can get in and out different ways and the entrances to the rides are off that path a bit, especially for SDD.

Maybe when the green army guys come out and people stop to watch but otherwise always found crowds flow pretty well through there.
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I was in the parks the last 2 weeks and our time in TSL (minus the torrential downpour) was very crowded. The meandering at the intersection between SDD and MM and the bathrooms is a straight up cluster f. If you've ever experienced the tightening walkway around Indy at DL in Adventureland or between Star Tours and Buzz in Tomorrowland there, it's nearly identical. The bottleneck is bad. Be glad you've never experienced it. When it's 92 degrees and slam packed with strollers, EVs, people just standing looking at all three rides along with cross traffic getting to the bathrooms and stroller parking, it's quite infuriating.

Add those idiot green drummers into the mix, you've just created hell. lol
 
ToTBellHop

ToTBellHop

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This talk of shade in TSL made me chuckle a bit. What were the 1970s Imagineers thinking?!
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Skibum1970

Skibum1970

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MisterPenguin said:
Pinch points are objectively a bad design. I would think the percentage of guests who are ok with being hardly able to move forward because of a dense meandering crowd is in the single digits.
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Especially a single walkway with one way in/out to what will be an insanely popular ride at the farthest end. On those days when DHS is packed, this walkway will become nigh impassable.
 

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