Two things:
1: That's year over year. So there was this little thing that happened between 2019 and 2025 that created some disruptions.
2. Domestic includes DLR.
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News Disney Parks Chief Josh D'Amaro Says Pricing Model Aims to Keep Vacations Affordable for Families
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1: That's year over year. So there was this little thing that happened between 2019 and 2025 that created some disruptions.
2. Domestic includes DLR.
LSLS
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Your sums are off, you are summing up the year as well. 2023 should be 48770. 2019 was almost exactly 10 million more people, so that is the increase you would be seeing from 2023-2025 if it is similar.
Sirwalterraleigh
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This is the walk away winner for “most meaningless/dumbest chart of the day”
Secretariat at the Belmont
Yes and full support of the Disney Board who were all recently reelected . Nothing but crickets on that.
JD80
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I'm just looking at occupancy numbers, it's a straight percentage of hotel nights for the quarter.
edit: I'm comparing apples to apples. Domestic occupancy.
Disneyland had 2900 rooms. WDW has nearly 37,000. That difference in hotel room nights available keep that occupancy a strong relationship with WDW.
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Disstevefan1
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The Disney Board is in Bob's pocket. We all know that.
JD80
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Sirwalterraleigh
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Not Nearly enough rooms on property to fill the guest areas. About 1/3 or them (and rising) are timeshares on contract.
They’re not attracting more people…unless you want to compare it to plexiglass in 2021
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Charlie The Chatbox Ghost
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Disney, and so many other corporations, could easily afford to make their products more affordable for people, but they simply choose not to because the culture of consumerism is so profitable, and they don't want it any other way. Disney for example is turning their brand into a "lifestyle" brand, a luxury that is tied to your identity. The cult community in the desert are gonna be wild to see. Also, the reason so many people sell things or go into debt for Disney trips is because the "Disney World vacation" has become a cultural milestone. People are raised to believe that Disney is this amazing thing that you just have to go to, and if you don't take your kids there, you're depriving them or yadda yadda yadda. I have a friend who's never been to Disney and he feels bad about it, even though it's just a theme park. But society at large sees Disney as a quintessential American childhood experience, so many parents feel pressured to get their kids there while they're still young. Again, still a choice they have to make, but the pressures of society and the messages you are raised with can really affect what should be a simple decision.
All of the above to say... there are many factors contributing to why Disney is so expensive for most people nowadays, even those who are better off, and most of those factors have nothing to do with consumers, so blaming park guests for Disney's pricing is a bit unfair.
All of the above to say... there are many factors contributing to why Disney is so expensive for most people nowadays, even those who are better off, and most of those factors have nothing to do with consumers, so blaming park guests for Disney's pricing is a bit unfair.
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Did he reelect all the Board on his own ?
Tony the Tigger
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It’s the lifestyle of someone who is successful.
I’m sure he worked hard when Amazon was just books and eBay was bigger.
As your business grows, you take on different roles.
I haven’t set an alarm in decades, nor had to work a cash register in many years, but I still work quite a lot - just on my own schedule. When you do better, you pay other people to do the things you used to do.
I used to respect Jeff. Not so much anymore. That’s neither here nor there. He doesn’t have to work another day in his life if he doesn’t want to. I’ll hold my fire on him sleeping until noon.
Tony the Tigger
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Right when I was typing.
whoops.
Disstevefan1
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To get back on topic, Josh does not give a cr@p about keeping Disney vacations affordable.
John park hopper
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Joshes salary seems to be a secret 2022 it appears he was paid 35 million lives in a wealthy area 30 minutes from Disneyland. I find it hard to believe he along with Bob have any concept of the average working man and to say Disney is making it affordable makes me laugh. I don't begrudge anyone from making money but don't take me for a fool
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Chi84
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I would hope he’s able to think beyond his own personal experience.
Ol' Joshie-poo was being a good corporate mouthpiece. Nothing more, nothing less. He was told what to say, rehearsed what to say, and repeated what he was told to say. Any business that needs to tell its core clientele just how "affordable" their product is... doesn't have a product that is "affordable" to its core clientele.
networkpro
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No, its not. Iger's public statements specifically target "income qualified" families as the target audience for theme parks. That's where Disney is drawing the line between aspirational and actual guests. I'm sure you've seen many studies on what percentage of current Disney guests go into debt for a visit to the House of Mouse.