Chi84
Premium Member
Can I assume you’re being facetious? I don’t want to choose an inappropriate reaction.
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WDW during a Recession / Economic Downturn
- Thread starter Tha Realest
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Is that while you are collecting your unemployment checks ?
Darmac a Middle East based company is building AI centers throughout the USA. It’s not a question of if but when more and more jobs are replaced by AI. I spoke to AI at the drive thru at Taco Bell recently.Disney will be fine because all jobs will be AI soon.
You might be joking, but on the other hand I'm not sure if this is a joke. Disney has always been much kinder to annual passholders in recession times, and I don't think this one will be any different. Do I think it will extend to regular day guests? Probably not, but it would not surprise me if we see APs finally get reservations dropped for example... Especially for the very local, that impacts how often we are willing to go, at least in my experience and those of people I've talked to over the last few years. Certainly I would go more often, and probably buy more pins and other things, if I didn't have to wait until the afternoon to go without a reservation... It's a hassle that is absolutely useless 95 to 99% of the time, so there's really no reason why it should exist at this point. I don't think it will exist by June of next year if the economy continues in the way it is.
Everything else at this point is gravy really. The bigger question is will they have enough CMs to staff the place, assuming they do another mass furlough or layoff. That is an open question...
I wrote my thoughts from my lived experiences on the matter.
Kamikaze
Well-Known Member
I hate this paragraph:I wrote my thoughts from my lived experiences on the matter.
It was only the second time in Disney World's history that a national emergency had forced the parks to close completely. The first was after the assassination of President Kennedy in 1963, years before Walt had even begun scouting land in Central Florida.
Good catch, I fixed it
My ability to self edit is usually limited to the energy I have after dealing with a toddler at home, so I appreciate getting called out.
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Chef Mickey
Well-Known Member
I'm convinced Disney despises their AP holders.
Shades of the character caravans tested at Pop ring rather true in those old caravans... At least in my opinion.I wrote my thoughts from my lived experiences on the matter.
There's two schools of thought within Disney.
1- Those that love them and recognize that during a downturn, it's their spending that keeps the parks afloat
2- Those that hate them and view them as "freeloaders".
OTOH, Universal and Sea World generally love their APholders and recognize that though they ultimately spend less on admission, they spend a lot more on merch and food in the park.
Miss Bella
Well-Known Member
Airlines decrease flights during slow downs. Full flights aren't a good indicator. The airlines goal is to have full flights if they have to cut flights and decrease capacity to keep flights full that's what they will do. I'm not saying there is a slow down.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
That’s a big part of itProbably all going to Epic.
See that’s the thing…nobody said that…
They said “bookings are strong”
Same guy that sold some prime swampland door to door in the Midwest in the late 1940s
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
I’m flying cheap and got a good room rate over a holiday weekend…
Booked 9 days out.
All parks (because they continue with the charade) “available”…all restaurants available…
Business is clearly BOOMIN’
Booked 9 days out.
All parks (because they continue with the charade) “available”…all restaurants available…
Business is clearly BOOMIN’
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
What’s funny about that is I have no doubt the discretionary spending of those APs has diminished since they started doing aggressive tactics to discourage APs
Think they’re ahead? Not at all…is my guess
Chi84
Premium Member
Isn’t this what everyone wanted? People were complaining when they couldn’t get restaurant reservations weeks in advance.
They can’t decrease flights too much as they want to keep certain gate access.
Jrb1979
Well-Known Member
What guests want and what Disney want are different things. No matter what people say Disney doesn't want lower attendance.
They want dining availability all booked weeks in advance and the parks shoulder to shoulder.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
That was the stupidity of the dining plan.
Fortunately…once they ended that and tried to restart it…it didn’t catch.
It wasn’t a good deal for a long time.
Neither are the menu prices now…which is probably why you can’t get a table practically anywhere…anyday.
I’ll repeat for the back of the class: they never wanted less people or less usage. They simply have killed the prices.
I guess that is “a benefit” in a completely upside down way? But not for the biz
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Chi84
Premium Member
Well that doesn’t sound like a place I would like to visit.