News Disney Parks Chief Josh D'Amaro Says Pricing Model Aims to Keep Vacations Affordable for Families

donaldtoo

Well-Known Member
$4 water or line up with guests on line like myself at the water fountain to fill up empty water bottle. Cost -$0. Or ask a CM for a cup of ice water.

I’ve always done the latter. I pretty much drink only two things…beer and water…and the free ice water has worked for me, just fine, on all of our visits in more recent years…plus, it saves money for more beer !!!!! :hungry::hilarious:;):)
 

Andrew C

You know what's funny?
You want to argue value. Different conversation.
That's the important conversation...value. Bang for your buck.

I can afford to stay at a Disney resort and buy park tickets every day. But do you find value in doing so based on what is being offered in the experience? Today..no, I don't. Not anymore.

You can price people out, and then also have people decide there is no value in paying those prices even if they can afford it.
 

Chi84

Premium Member
That's the important conversation...value. Bang for your buck.

I can afford to stay at a Disney resort and buy park tickets every day. But do you find value in doing so based on what is being offered in the experience? Today..no, I don't. Not anymore.

You can price people out, and then also have people decide there is no value in paying those prices even if they can afford it.
There are a lot of new/first time visitors who don't know what was included in the price before and are making their value decision based only on what is offered now.

It seems WDW still has an edge over similar venues due to its size and the number and variety of entertainment and dining options offered. There's a lot to do there.

People are willing to pay quite a bit for their brand of uniqueness and cross-generational appeal.

But yes, it's getting extremely expensive and I can say for certain that we wouldn't vacation there without the line-skips, parties and other upgrades.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Folks on these boards have been saying "Smart short term…stupid longterm" for decades.

Folks who still want to vacation at Disneyparks are not idiots, they are simply not priced out yet. There are a lot if folks with a lot of money out there. Just ask Bob, Hugh and Josh. ;)

Not calling you wrong but lets see how long the "delay" lasts.

Lets see if the Halloween and Christmas parties sell out the year too.
So you decline to address the issue im describing?

Ok…can’t wait to hear the “for everybody that leaves…there are 10 to take their place…” again

That too has been around for decades…it’s just no longer a valid stance.
You know wdw never regained 10% of their pre plague attendance numbers, right? And they’ve also admitted some dips since

It’s just last week they said everything was great with no commitment to evidence

Alls great
 

Disstevefan1

Well-Known Member
So you decline to address the issue im describing?

Ok…can’t wait to hear the “for everybody that leaves…there are 10 to take their place…” again

That too has been around for decades…it’s just no longer a valid stance.
You know wdw never regained 10% of their pre plague attendance numbers, right? And they’ve also admitted some dips since

It’s just last week they said everything was great with no commitment to evidence

Alls great
I do not mean to upset you Sir Walter. I sincerely enjoy your posts when I can understand them. I admit some go over my head. My problem not yours.

I think the issue you are taking about is attendance, and I agree, attendance is declining.

It appears they are propping up revenue by charging more for everything and of course the money grab of them all, the money for nothing, LL system. Simply put, they are getting more money from less people. The short sighted money grabbing is continuing and I will be honest I am not sure if/when it will end.

I totally understand your concern about how long will guests put up with it. I do not know. It appears folks have not given up yet.

Is the guest experience getting better with less folks in the park? Not for ME (yet).

Here is a simple test (for myself). If I can stroll into EPCOT at 1:30PM and walk over to Guardians and get in a 45 minute standby or less, THEN I would say the guest experience is better and I would officially say I feel the lower attendance.

Another simple test (for myself) is if I can get in a 30 min or less standby for Frozen. I would officially say I feel the lower attendance.

You may be thinking, lower wait times is not a good measure of low attendance because, the broken LL/DAS/Standby systems, are so broken, that there could be longer wait times even with low attendance.

I think, if/when attendance gets low enough it can make up for the broken LL/DAS/Standby systems in the park and result in tolerable standby lines.
 

donaldtoo

Well-Known Member
I was always a Sweet Tomatoes fan, but Cici's does hit something special when in the mood

The last time we ate at Cici’s was about 20 years ago, and it was only because neighbors we had done a favor for treated us.
Tomato flavored crust with a touch of cheese and a bit of some sort of protein thrown in is not pizza…!!!!! :bored::hilarious:
 

That_Arrow_Dude

New Member
Like all carnivals there is a charge to get in the tent. Then another fee to see whats behind the curtain in the tent.
Like all carnivals you can pay someone to cut in line.
Like all carnivals you will have drunkards, patrons fighting and questionable to darn right despicable adult decisions.
Like all carnivals you have con man worried that you might leave with money still in your pocket. So they listen carefully for the rattle of extra coin to be had.
Like all carnivals they are amazing as a child. But then you get older and the trickery becomes ironic and accepted.

Like all carnivals they are fun. But should never be fully trusted. Especially from the barker telling you how he's giving you a deal.
 

Chi84

Premium Member
Like all carnivals there is a charge to get in the tent. Then another fee to see whats behind the curtain in the tent.
Like all carnivals you can pay someone to cut in line.
Like all carnivals you will have drunkards, patrons fighting and questionable to darn right despicable adult decisions.
Like all carnivals you have con man worried that you might leave with money still in your pocket. So they listen carefully for the rattle of extra coin to be had.
Like all carnivals they are amazing as a child. But then you get older and the trickery becomes ironic and accepted.

Like all carnivals they are fun. But should never be fully trusted. Especially from the barker telling you how he's giving you a deal.
Are there clowns?
 

Nubs70

Well-Known Member
Like all carnivals there is a charge to get in the tent. Then another fee to see whats behind the curtain in the tent.
Like all carnivals you can pay someone to cut in line.
Like all carnivals you will have drunkards, patrons fighting and questionable to darn right despicable adult decisions.
Like all carnivals you have con man worried that you might leave with money still in your pocket. So they listen carefully for the rattle of extra coin to be had.
Like all carnivals they are amazing as a child. But then you get older and the trickery becomes ironic and accepted.

Like all carnivals they are fun. But should never be fully trusted. Especially from the barker telling you how he's giving you a deal.
This is the exact reason WDL and WDW were built. To not be a carnival.
 

Smooth

Well-Known Member
I first visited WDW in 1977 when I was about 19 years old. I started going once a year. When I got married in 1981 my wife and I went to WDW for our honeymoon. We continued to go at least once a year and later started going 2 to 3 times a year when we got annual passes. Our annual income during those early years was really not that great. But it was still affordable for us to go.
We are semi-retired now and financially doing well. Our home is paid off and we owe nothing on our vehicles, etc.
But, WDW is no longer as affordable as it once was. We have been 2 times since 2014.
So, if Disney was affordable when we made much less money, how is it not affordable now?
 

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