MK Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

[TrainsOfDisney]

Here’s hoping they’re at least keeping the Liberty Belle docked.

There hasn’t been any art that shows the back which faces Tiana’s - I’m really hoping they figure out a way to keep the Liberty Belle somehow.

At Epcot they have the sailing ship…. But those were different times and I’m sure they wouldn’t do the same now unfortunately. :/

 

[James Alucobond]

The water features potentially being retained look like they would be similar in scale to what you find along Grizzly River Trail in California Adventure. I don't think they're going to look like navigable waters, which would make a docked Liberty Belle look pretty ridiculous even if they could carve out space for it. I don't think it's going to happen.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

I don't think they're going to look like navigable waters, which would make a docked Liberty Belle look pretty ridiculous even if they could carve out space for it.

Wouldn’t want anything to look ridiculous like a fairy tale castle at the end of Main Street USA!

 

[James Alucobond]

Those aren't the same thing. The placement of the castle makes physical sense relative to Main Street and the hub even if the clash of styles is fantastical. A massive steamboat landlocked inside of a pond the same size as its hull doesn't make physical sense.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

The placement of the castle makes physical sense relative to Main Street and the hub even if the clash of styles is fantastical. A massive steamboat landlocked inside of a pond the same size as its hull doesn't make physical sense.

2 things - the scale of Cinderella castle is way off in my opinion - which is made worse by the tree massacare of the early 2000’s. Anaheim and Paris get the scale and design much better.

But back to the riverboat…. I trust that imagineers are talented enough to design something that would work for the riverboats scale. Since the “River” has always been much more narrow than the actual Mississippi- they can make it work if needed.

But it will likely get scrapped according to insiders - so best case it goes into private hands.

 

[eddie104]

the scale of Cinderella castle is way off in my opinion

It’s not.

Each park was designed a specific way and Anaheim and Paris are two totally different parks.

The approach here is a much grander reveal in my opinion because of the forced perspective.

It has nothing to with some missing trees.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

It’s not.

Each park was designed a specific way and Anaheim and Paris are two totally different parks.

The approach here is a much grander reveal in my opinion because of the forced perspective.

It has nothing to with some missing trees.

We disagree.

Either trees matter or they don’t. It’s silly to think they don’t - as they were part of the original design and then intentionally changed. I personally think the original design was better (it certainly felt better in the Florida sun!) but I can also see the benefits of being able to pack in crowds for nighttime shows.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

2 things - the scale of Cinderella castle is way off in my opinion - which is made worse by the tree massacare of the early 2000’s. Anaheim and Paris get the scale and design much better.

But back to the riverboat…. I trust that imagineers are talented enough to design something that would work for the riverboats scale. Since the “River” has always been much more narrow than the actual Mississippi- they can make it work if needed.

But it will likely get scrapped according to insiders - so best case it goes into private hands.

If they can come up with a plan that makes sense /looks good I would be all for it

Also could work to have it docked at Port Orleans Riverside and use it for a restaurant or something

 

[TheMaxRebo]

It’s not.

Each park was designed a specific way and Anaheim and Paris are two totally different parks.

The approach here is a much grander reveal in my opinion because of the forced perspective.

It has nothing to with some missing trees.

I believe I read that part of the scale with Anaheim was that you can't see the castle until in the park and then to draw you down main St

And for Florida they wanted it much bigger so you could see it from outside when approaching the park/on the monorail/etc to draw you into the park as a whole.

 

[James Alucobond]

But back to the riverboat…. I trust that imagineers are talented enough to design something that would work for the riverboats scale. Since the “River” has always been much more narrow than the actual Mississippi- they can make it work if needed.

But it will likely get scrapped according to insiders - so best case it goes into private hands.

I think we know enough about the space constraints from the existing art to say that it would be very difficult to slot in the Liberty Belle anywhere along the existing inner circle. I don't think the Imagineers can fix that unless they decide to drastically reduce the footprint of Cars.

That said, if the laydown yards outside the tracks do eventually get developed, either into an extension of Villains or an additional entrance for a hypothetical adjacent hotel, you could perhaps dock the boat elsewhere in the section of the waterway that will be retained. I'm not sure if they'd hold onto it on the off chance that they'd use it for something so far off, though.

 

[Agent H]

I think we know enough about the space constraints from the existing art to say that it would be very difficult to slot in the Liberty Belle anywhere along the existing inner circle. I don't think the Imagineers can fix that unless they decide to drastically reduce the footprint of Cars.

That said, if the laydown yards outside the tracks do eventually get developed, either into an extension of Villains or an additional entrance for a hypothetical adjacent hotel, you could perhaps dock the boat elsewhere in the section of the waterway that will be retained. I'm not sure if they'd hold onto it on the off chance that they'd use it for something so far off, though.

Question. Would there be room if they axed the second attraction and the rumored store?

 

[James Alucobond]

Question. Would there be room if they axed the second attraction and the rumored store?

All you're doing is making physical space for it by axing things. For it to make visual sense, you'd need to fundamentally redesign some elements. In your example, if you blew up the junior attraction, you could certainly put a puddle in its place for the Liberty Belle to sit in, but it'd still be nonsensically hemmed in by the planned landbridge to the north that connects Big Thunder to the Villains pathway.

 

[Agent H]

All you're doing is making physical space for it by axing things. For it to make visual sense, you'd need to fundamentally redesign some elements. In your example, if you blew up the junior attraction, you could certainly put a puddle in its place for the Liberty Belle to sit in, but it'd still be nonsensically hemmed in by the planned landbridge to the north that connects Big Thunder to the Villains pathway.

I see what you mean.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Nothing is preventing the design to allow for the Liberty Belle to be docked somewhere. If that’s a desire - it can certainly happen.

We don’t know what the Tianas facing side will look like - it needs to blend into the New Orleans theme - which would include water.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Nothing is preventing the design to allow for the Liberty Belle to be docked somewhere. If that’s a desire - it can certainly happen.

We don’t know what the Tianas facing side will look like - it needs to blend into the New Orleans theme - which would include water.

But judging having it sit in a puddle would be pathetic.

 

[Bocabear]

Well with Cars area and Big Thunder as the only piece of Frontierland, Tiana makes literally no sense in it's current location either...they have added nothing to support that you are now in Louisiana...considering you just went by some old Western buildings...The Splash red clay rockwork blended a little better with the red rocks of Big Thunder... It is all just becoming a thematic mess...

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

It is all just becoming a thematic mess...

Agreed. I’m hoping this is addressed with the cars attraction and not made worse. I think the artwork we’ve seen was somewhat rushed (with no details on the 2nd attraction that seems likely) - that’s why I still have a sliver of hope for the riverboat.

Even without the riverboat I hope they attempt to tie this all together somehow and not just plop some rocks down and say “look more stuff!”

 

[aladdin2007]

Agreed. I’m hoping this is addressed with the cars attraction and not made worse. I think the artwork we’ve seen was somewhat rushed (with no details on the 2nd attraction that seems likely) - that’s why I still have a sliver of hope for the riverboat.

Even without the riverboat I hope they attempt to tie this all together somehow and not just plop some rocks down and say “look more stuff!”

Agree, but worried with the path they have been on in projects. My hope is the complaints have not been ignored and better attempts to tie together will be made, they sure didn't try with tiana. So now its a mess on top of a mess. Still concerned how all this is going to look and sound from the Haunted Mansion. I really hope that initial rushed one piece of concept art has been retooled and redesigned or something, its all been hush hush with no updates.

 

[Raineman]

Please, not until after July. I can't take another construction wall going up before my trip with my family.

Think of them not as construction walls, but Magic® barriers. There is so much Magic® being built behind those walls that our valued Disney guests could not handle all of it if the barriers weren't there. You would be getting kicked in the teeth by Magic® without those barriers. When the barriers come down, the Magic® is ready and yours to enjoy! For our valued guests who would love to get a sneak preview of the Magic® behind the barriers, we have viewing windows that can be booked for $59.99 per person on the Disney app.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Think of them not as construction walls, but Magic® barriers. There is so much Magic® being built behind those walls that our valued Disney guests could not handle all of it if the barriers weren't there. You would be getting kicked in the teeth by Magic® without those barriers. When the barriers come down, the Magic® is ready and yours to enjoy! For our valued guests who would love to get a sneak preview of the Magic® behind the barriers, we have viewing windows that can be booked for $59.99 per person on the Disney app.

Pixie Dust Partitions