News Disney Lakeshore Lodge (Project 89 - Development near Fort Wilderness)

nickys

Premium Member
Here’s Lakeshore Lodge currently:
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And here’s Car’s Land currently:

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Pretty obvious where Disney’s priorities are. Another resort is not going to help them compete with Epic Universe this summer, or even next year….or the next.
Hey, that might be the new idea for “the part of the park where Cars will be”. 🤪

It’s an extension of the “You are the Magic” concept. Grab a shovel and start creating the dirt pile.
 

dseepersad

Member
The construction in the Meadows area will begin very soon. Whatever that will be, I just hope it's an amenity that the campers can use too.

From Disney's site:
"Beginning early May, construction will take place near the Meadow Swimmin’ Pool area. The Meadow Swimmin’ Pool and Wilderness Swimmin’ Pool will remain open. However, the nearby tennis courts, volleyball court and the Meadow Playground will be closed temporarily. Please note that Guests may see and hear construction in the area until the work is complete."

The construction noise can impact campers in 1300 and 1500 loops the most.
 
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tpoly88

Well-Known Member
Disney builds DVC because they recoup the building costs almost immediately when they are finished. CASH cows. New attractions cost a lot and they don't recoup the cost as quickly plus DVC maintenance is payed by the DVC owner. Attractions Disney has to pay maintenance costs----all about the money
That’s a great point I didn’t think about. So does Disney build these DVC resorts because they just sold for example , another 2000 memberships and they know they will have the capacity to fill it similar to a condo building that won’t start until over 3/4 of units sold? I find it amazing how many people are still buying DVC.
 

DisneyHead123

Well-Known Member
That’s a great point I didn’t think about. So does Disney build these DVC resorts because they just sold for example , another 2000 memberships and they know they will have the capacity to fill it similar to a condo building that won’t start until over 3/4 of units sold? I find it amazing how many people are still buying DVC.
The memberships are somewhat resort specific with buyers having a “base resort” (they can use points for other resorts or cruises though). They won’t start selling Lakeside DVCs until the resort is open.
 

nickys

Premium Member
That’s a great point I didn’t think about. So does Disney build these DVC resorts because they just sold for example , another 2000 memberships and they know they will have the capacity to fill it similar to a condo building that won’t start until over 3/4 of units sold? I find it amazing how many people are still buying DVC.
Kind of. They always want a ‘new’ resort in active sales. Plus ideally an alternative. In practice it means a new one every 3-4 years. Likely this got nudged earlier because the Cabins at FW are tanking. So now it’s the Poly in active sales plus Riviera. And when this goes on sale Riviera should be declared sold out (95-97% to allow for the minimum 2-3% that Disney must retain).

But it’s the percentage of points sold that counts, not the # of contracts - since the size of contracts can vary.
 

2600loop

Member
Kind of. They always want a ‘new’ resort in active sales. Plus ideally an alternative. In practice it means a new one every 3-4 years. Likely this got nudged earlier because the Cabins at FW are tanking. So now it’s the Poly in active sales plus Riviera. And when this goes on sale Riviera should be declared sold out (95-97% to allow for the minimum 2-3% that Disney must retain).

But it’s the percentage of points sold that counts, not the # of contracts - since the size of contracts can vary.
The cabins are tanking ?
I wonder why though because barely themed poorly designed sheds are what the people want surely
 

castlecake2.0

Well-Known Member
The construction in the Meadows area will begin very soon. Whatever that will be, I just hope it's an amenity that the campers can use too.

From Disney's site:
"Beginning early May, construction will take place near the Meadow Swimmin’ Pool area. The Meadow Swimmin’ Pool and Wilderness Swimmin’ Pool will remain open. However, the nearby tennis courts, volleyball court and the Meadow Playground will be closed temporarily. Please note that Guests may see and hear construction in the area until the work is complete."

The construction noise can impact campers in 1300 and 1500 loops the most.
It’s an additional pool and redesigned sports courts
 

dseepersad

Member
This photo was taken from the Settlement Trading Post. It makes me so sad to see the impact this already has on FW.
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HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
Premium Member
At this point I think we’re luck we even have a campground still
I'm almost certain that the campground has been looked at for replacement at some point. There are probably even plans laying around somewhere. Who knows, this could be phase 1 and replacing the campgrounds with another large hotel building could be phase 2 for that area.
 

Andrew C

You know what's funny?
I'm almost certain that the campground has been looked at for replacement at some point. There are probably even plans laying around somewhere. Who knows, this could be phase 1 and replacing the campgrounds with another large hotel building could be phase 2 for that area.
Don't anger the RVers...just saying.
 

dseepersad

Member
I'm almost certain that the campground has been looked at for replacement at some point. There are probably even plans laying around somewhere. Who knows, this could be phase 1 and replacing the campgrounds with another large hotel building could be phase 2 for that area.
I asked this very question at the front desk, they said the campground is not going anywhere. But there is no doubt that things are never going to be the same at FW.
 

dseepersad

Member
Don't anger the RVers...just saying.
I feel that the campers’ anger is justified. FW is the ONLY place for campers. Disney has many resorts already, why would they need to take away the ONE place for campers (this includes RVers and tent campers). Walt’s plans for WDW included a campground, it’s something he insisted on having.

If FW goes the way of the dinosaurs, I know that I, and many others, will no longer visit WDW. We do not visit the parks all that much and would not see a reason to return.
 

JMcMahonEsq

Well-Known Member
I asked this very question at the front desk, they said the campground is not going anywhere. But there is no doubt that things are never going to be the same at FW.
Front desk service staff (really any front line service type/CM employee) wouldn't have any idea of high level corporate operation decisions such as closing hotels or planning to build new structures on existing properties until they were already public knowledge.
 

tlmadden_73

New Member
I'd say the campground is probably the next thing to go .. eventually. That's a lot of space for the cheapest tickets on property. And angering some campers is a drop in the bucket compared to their DVC population.

Just like modern day suburban development . .you can cram more people in less space if you go veritical and ignore green space. You don't see many neighborhoods being built with 1 acre lots .. you just see 10 townhomes crammed on what used to be a single family home lot.
 

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