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Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

DKampy

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(AKA the money it would cost to mount, open and operate for two years a major new musical show in DCA's abandoned 2,000 seat Hyperion Theater. But who in Burbank cares about park capacity and guest experience?).

You keep correlating the box office with theme parks…. But the gross of a film( good or bad)will not affect the theme park division…. Both are different buckets…. But if you have not noticed Disney is investing more into their theme parks again… including DCA
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
You keep correlating the box office with theme parks…. But the gross of a film( good or bad)will not affect the theme park division…. Both are different buckets…. But if you have not noticed Disney is investing more into their theme parks again… including DCA
He doesn’t care, he had a narrative to keep up. It’s why he kept talking about lack of parades for months after Disney announced a new parade for WDW and a return of a popular parade for DL.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
You keep correlating the box office with theme parks…. But the gross of a film( good or bad)will not affect the theme park division…. Both are different buckets…. But if you have not noticed Disney is investing more into their theme parks again… including DCA
Movies are expected to feed theme park traffic for one studio…but that’s only been since 1955
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
And yet…they all didn’t bomb

They are so devoid of content that they put a bomb on more screens that didn’t bring in the cost of a pizza per

Yikes

And didn’t you hear? People LOVE Disney…in Q2

They’re raking it…money is flowing

NOBODY Can resist it!!!
Every year since the dawn of Hollywood you have movies that do well and those that bomb. This is the nature of the business. So far in 2025 only one major studio is actually in the positive as far as I can tell, and that is WB.

The question is if Disney is so weak at the box office as you and some others claim here, then why aren't other studios jumping in and counter programming the schedule against them every weekend? You figure they'd smell blood in the water right and pounce, yet that is not happening. Why?

Since that isn't happening it shows that -

1. Disney is still the king of the box office overall and other studios just follows so they steer clear for the most part, ie they respect Disney and what it can do at the box office.
2. Other studios are still trying to figure out this post-pandemic market just like everyone else, ie theatrical is dying a slow death and they are trying to figure out how to scrape every last dollar out of it before it crashes completely.

Also you need to let the quarterly go, you got it wrong, deal with it. I've read your comments and conspiracy theory of false earnings in the thread, even bringing my name in it, you just need to face facts that Wall St don't care about the same things fans do. And that by and large yes fans still will show up even in the face of perceived issues. The Mouse provides and the fans eat it up, again deal with it.
 
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celluloid

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Its ironic that now the Magic Kingdom and EPCOT finances todays flop after flop movies 😉

I know what you are saying with parks being what is drained for bad choices.... but EPCOT is not financing much of anything compared to MK, DL, oversaeas parks, DCL and selling liscencing deals elsewhere.

EPCOT is on the near 60 dollars a day mark for many this summer for a reason and that is after having more invested into it than any other of the four theme parks in the last five years.
 

DKampy

Well-Known Member
1. Disney is still the king of the box office overall and other studios just follows so they steer clear for the most part, ie they respect Disney and what it can do at the box office.
I believe Disney will be king of the box office in 2025 also…. IMO the 3 surest bets on films to cross the billion dollar mark are all Disney….Stitch, Zootopia, and Avatar
 

TP2000

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You keep correlating the box office with theme parks…. But the gross of a film( good or bad)will not affect the theme park division…. Both are different buckets…. But if you have not noticed Disney is investing more into their theme parks again… including DCA

Yes, check back in Spring, 2029 for the next ride opening in DCA.

In the meantime, the 2,000 seat Hyperion Theater sits empty and abandoned, DCA has no parade (day or night), Tomorrowland (on both coasts) is an empty shell of its former self with multiple empty buildings, and the current day parade at Disneyland USA is over five (5!) years old.

But sure, excuse the fact that The Amateur just vaporized enough cash to fill the Hyperion for two years with a new show, and Rachel Zegler's Snow White just vaporized enough cash to reinvigorate at least one Tomorrowland from the ground up. And a Lightning Lane ticket to Cars Land Racers is going for $22 per person. Because.... Burbank! 🤪
 

Tha Realest

Well-Known Member
But sure, excuse the fact that The Amateur just vaporized enough cash to fill the Hyperion for two years with a new show, and Rachel Zegler's Snow White just vaporized enough cash to reinvigorate at least one Tomorrowland from the ground up. And a Lightning Lane ticket to Cars Land Racers is going for $22 per person. Because.... Burbank! 🤪
To be fair, what would you rather spend $22 on - guaranteed access with low waits to Radiator Springs Racers, or IMAX Snow White (2025)?
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Every year since the dawn of Hollywood you have movies that do well and those that bomb. This is the nature of the business. So far in 2025 only one major studio is actually in the positive as far as I can tell, and that is WB.

The question is if Disney is so weak at the box office as you and some others claim here, then why aren't other studios jumping in and counter programming the schedule against them every weekend? You figure they'd smell blood in the water right and pounce, yet that is not happening. Why?

Since that isn't happening it shows that -

1. Disney is still the king of the box office overall and other studios just follows so they steer clear for the most part, ie they respect Disney and what it can do at the box office.
2. Other studios are still trying to figure out this post-pandemic market just like everyone else, ie theatrical is dying a slow death and they are trying to figure out how to scrape every last dollar out of it before it crashes completely.

Also you need to let the quarterly go, you got it wrong, deal with it. I've read your comments and conspiracy theory of false earnings in the thread, even bringing my name in it, you just need to face facts that Wall St don't care about the same things fans do. And that by and large yes fans still will show up even in the face of perceived issues. The Mouse provides and the fans eat it up, again deal with it.

Ummm…cause it takes 5 years to make a movie…even if it’s terrible and greenlit by no talent A-clowns? It’s a Hollywood jobs program.

You think other studios aren’t looking to “jump in” since the “leader in family entertainment is tossing Molotovs all over the place? I bet they do…but it’s not like they can run out with vhs camcorder and start filming.

You assume stitch will do well and elio will cover budget? Safe

After that…Marvel is gonna likely underperform again…freaky Friday?…Tron?

Rough slate until Bob shifts the sequels into overdrive (to go with his next contract extension) later this year
 

Disstevefan1

Well-Known Member
I know what you are saying with parks being what is drained for bad choices.... but EPCOT is not financing much of anything compared to MK, DL, oversaeas parks, DCL and selling liscencing deals elsewhere.

EPCOT is on the near 60 dollars a day mark for many this summer for a reason and that is after having more invested into it than any other of the four theme parks in the last five years.
Yes we can split hairs about how much each specific park contributes to finance Disney's failing movie business but I think we can agree that Disney's theme parks and cruises are financing Disney's failing movie business.
 

Disstevefan1

Well-Known Member
I believe Disney will be king of the box office in 2025 also…. IMO
I agree but its too bad it will have cost them more to wear the crown than its worth ;)

Seriously, if they can tie a few money making movies together, they can make up for the losses and thereby be the king at the box office AND be profitable in their movie business in 2025.

Lets see what happens.
 

celluloid

Well-Known Member
I agree but its too bad it will have cost them more to wear the crown than its worth ;)

Seriously, if they can tie a few money making movies together, they can make up for the losses and thereby be the king at the box office AND be profitable in their movie business in 2025.

Lets see what happens.

I think Stitch and Elio have a chance to really help them with support of Fantastic Four.

But the amount of the investment also matters in terms of money making box office, and I think WB with Minecraft, Sinners, Superman and its lower budget horror releases will give it the edge in the money-making realm.
Uni also a decent shot because Wicked, How to Train Your Dragon(depending on how audiences take it) and its easy Blumhouse wins.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Yes we can split hairs about how much each specific park contributes to finance Disney's failing movie business but I think we can agree that Disney's theme parks and cruises are financing Disney's failing movie business.
Movies where always a small slice of the pie…

They’re really financing their collapsing linear cable business

Where old men who ever turned on lifetime or espn were charged for both in Kansas…and the ad money rolled in
 

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