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[celluloid]

I mean I would sincerely put bad grammar as my forth biggest criticism.

Well then, if that is the fourth biggest criticism in a brand new theme park, you are only PUNishing yourself from enjoying a great theme park and shows just how few criticisms there are.

Maybe you would enjoy Ecpot better or Space Mt at Magic Kingdom, it is out of this WORD!

 

[Agent H]

Well then, if that is the fourth biggest criticism in a brand new theme park, you are only PUNishing yourself from enjoying a great theme park and shows just how few criticisms there are.

Maybe you would enjoy Ecpot better or Space Mt at Magic Kingdom, it is out of this WORD!

 

[Tom Morrow]

I mean I would sincerely put bad grammar as my forth biggest criticism.

With the safety warning signs I think its more likely that they were rushed out for previews en masse so some mistakes got through. Remember that there was like, what, 5 days of warning before suddenly they were letting team members enter for previews?

 

[MisterPenguin]

It was to explain why it is fine written the way it is. Expectant or Pregnant Mothers was well explained to you by now that it was fine under the section it is in.
If you are claiming Straw Man so often on multiple posters posts, that many have told you how trivial it is, maybe, just maybe you don't even know what your point that does not matter is.

Dying on a hill of beans.

Still waiting for you quote where I said anyone who is pregnant or Pregnant Mothers should actually ride the ride.

We all see what you're doing.

 

[JT3000]

Please provide the quote from my post in which I claimed that pregnant women should get on the ride.

If you love that Straw Man so much, you should marry him.

Show me where I supposedly said you claimed pregnant women should ride. You quoted my post but this hardly qualifies as a response to what I actually said.

 

[celluloid]

Still waiting for you quote where I said anyone who is pregnant or Pregnant Mothers should actually ride the ride.

We all see what you're doing.

You will be waiting.

You and whoever else is in your pocket with the odd "We".
Spelling aside, the signage is correct.

Both of "you" should reread the situation like you should have reread the signage to see outside of spelling, it is correct.

 

[JT3000]

I mean I would sincerely put bad grammar as my forth biggest criticism.

Yes, we can see that you've sincerely put forth your criticism of bad grammar.

 

[lazyboy97o]

With the safety warning signs I think its more likely that they were rushed out for previews en masse so some mistakes got through. Remember that there was like, what, 5 days of warning before suddenly they were letting team members enter for previews?

You understand that would be worse, right?

Warning signs are not something that is rushed.

 

[celluloid]

The signs were not rushed anymore than others. Clerical level non egregious errors that will be fixed via in priority and in some cases, not going to likely fixed for awhile as not critical.

 

[Poseidon Quest]

It’s the same type of movements, but it makes sense for Victoria to be animated and dramatic with her movements in that moment, whereas it doesn’t for Tiana, so Tiana just feels like they’re over-indulging to demonstrate their tech.

Same type of movements? The tech Universal is using seems to be a lot more controlled and nuanced. I don't recall where I saw the breakdown, but I remember reading interesting commentary about how realistic the movement is for the Phantom and for Frankenstein's Monster in the tesla coil scene. They were used as examples for storytelling through realistic body language, yet when I look at Tiana's, they're moving just for the sake of movement. Essentially, yeah I'm agreeing with your point, but then I'm following up with the question: Do you have knowledge of the different technology behind the figures?

Are the Tiana's animatronics just simply not programmed to be better, or is it a limitation in the technology that Disney is using? Because as far as I can tell, Universal has them beat, even if the differences are a lot more nuanced.

 

[celluloid]

Tiana's figures were crafted with all they cared for her to do, as were the Monsters in Unchained.
One is superior in animation and range.

 

[Tom Morrow]

Same type of movements? The tech Universal is using seems to be a lot more controlled and nuanced. I don't recall where I saw the breakdown, but I remember reading interesting commentary about how realistic the movement is for the Phantom and for Frankenstein's Monster in the tesla coil scene. They were used as examples for storytelling through realistic body language, yet when I look at Tiana's, they're moving just for the sake of movement. Essentially, yeah I'm agreeing with your point, but then I'm following up with the question: Do you have knowledge of the different technology behind the figures?

Are the Tiana's animatronics just simply not programmed to be better, or is it a limitation in the technology that Disney is using? Because as far as I can tell, Universal has them beat, even if the differences are a lot more nuanced.

No, I have no significant knowledge of how they work or are programmed. I was just stating that it makes sense for Victoria to dramatically flail around in her pre-show, but not Tiana in any of her scenes in the ride.

Also, the more impressive animatronic in that scene is her new "Frank". If you watch closely, he does a relatively subtle nonverbal reaction to everything Victoria says, such a smirk and patting his chest when she says he is better than the original.

 

[Agent H]

Yes, we can see that you've sincerely put forth your criticism of bad grammar.

Please point to the bad grammar in my post and I will happily correct it

 

[mkt]

SNL's poking fun

 

[JT3000]

Please point to the bad grammar in my post and I will happily correct it

"Forth."

SNL's poking fun

Dear lord...

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I think this is the first time I’ve seen you choose a hill to die on over something so inconsequential. The verbiage on the signs is passed through several layers of legal and PR scrutiny. It’s the same basic language all parks use on their signs. The typos will get fixed.

When we nitpick things like this, it helps to bury legitimate criticisms - which Epic has several legitimate issues - and tells the companies that they don’t have to “course-correct” because “people complain about literally everything”.

Other than the “Bob is great…so my life sucks less…” hill he’s been entrenched on like the maginot line for what appears to be multiple decades - 24/7/52?

 

[Tha Realest]

This whole pregnancy thing is ridiculous. Most other parks have it printed that way. Most people don't think anything of it or make a big deal about it.

At this point it's over done with finding any little issue to put down Epic Universe.

While “Pregnant Mothers” may be inartful, it conveys the risk for those who are pregnant clearer than “Expectant Mothers” which is the preferred verbiage of the other major theme park in Orlando. Or have they changed it to “Birthing People who May Be Birthing Soon”?

 

[celluloid]

SNL's poking fun

Sincerest form of flattery and meeting corporate synergy under Comcast-NBC!


On this note, for those who did not know, the location just added outdoor seating due to its popularity.

 

[JT3000]

While “Pregnant Mothers” may be inartful, it conveys the risk for those who are pregnant clearer than “Expectant Mothers” which is the preferred verbiage of the other major theme park in Orlando. Or have they changed it to “Birthing People who May Be Birthing Soon”?

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Instead of complaining about the manner in which pregnant women are addressed on the park's warning signs, people really ought to be complaining about Epic's warning signs failing to include imagery of a woman launching a flying baby out of her birth canal like some sort of improvised projectile weapon. I feel cheated after seeing what's possible.

 

[freediverdude]

To be honest, I can't quite remember how this forum fit into the overall online Disney ecosystem back when I first joined (gulp) 23 years ago. I do go back to the alt.disney.disneyland and rec.arts.disney.parks era in the 1990s, and my memory of that time is significantly coloured by things such as Al Lutz's Promote Paul Pressler campaign, the talk of "declining by degrees", the Light Magic debacle, and the distinct negativity around DCA's announcement, construction, and opening. All of that fed into the Save Disney campaign which eventually forced the company's CEO to step down. I will say that the negativity around WDW (as far as I remember) began later once Pressler took control of the the parks division as a whole and into Iger's tenure, so it is possible this forum was a lot more positive.

All that is to say that I think Disney's online fan community has always had a very critical streak. I think you are right, though, that it has only really gathered steam among WDW fans more recently for various reasons. You are probably also right that there has been sneering at Universal by some Disney fans over that time. Maybe that naturally breeds some defensiveness.

That said, I don't think all of these critiques come from a need to overcorrect for the pre-opening hype. My point was not that Universal was making these statements, but that they were being made in this very thread in which we are participating. I can only speak for myself, but I honestly wondered if I was the only one not seeing what everyone else was apparently seeing when commenting on the concept art when I commented pre-opening rather than feeling the need to overcorrect for other people's praise of it. I also think it is kind of natural that people also now bring up the same sort of issues around theming they would if they were discussing a Disney park, both given how Epic has been discussed on here and the fact we are on a Disney theme park forum.

I came over to this forum from the other forum that shall not be named, years ago, because it got to the point that I was pretty sure that some of the posters over there were either Disney cast members or posters professionally paid by Disney to control the narrative, and not allow criticism. At least here it is more free and Disney doesn't appear to control this forum yet.