News Coco Boat Ride Coming to Disney California Adventure

[chadwpalm]

Yeah, and MMRR had a construction pause during the shutdown, so 2 years definitely seems possible.

Yeah, MMRR is not a good example for how long it would take to build a singular dark ride.

The first stages of demolition for Galaxy's Edge started the last week of February 2016 and the 14 acre land was opened just 3 years 3 months later (sans RotR due to technical troubles).

I don't see why Coco can't be done in 2 years, especially when we don't know how far in the design process and building of the internal set pieces and AAs they already are at.

 

[wityblack]

Yeah, MMRR is not a good example for how long it would take to build a singular dark ride.

The first stages of demolition for Galaxy's Edge started the last week of February 2016 and the 14 acre land was opened just 3 years 3 months later (sans RotR due to technical troubles).

I don't see why Coco can't be done in 2 years, especially when we don't know how far in the design process and building of the internal set pieces and AAs they already are at.

Just because something is smaller doesn't mean that it isn't constrained by chronological construction processes. Also important to note that the rides are usually the first thing worked on in lands, so they often take the longest. They start restaurants and shops later because they take less time and then can be done simultaneously with the second half of ride construction and testing. Anything is possible, but if I were a betting woman I would put a good chunk of change on Coco opening late 28 or early to mid 29.

 

[TheDisneyParksfanC8]

With construction confirmed to break ground in 2026, maybe we will get an opening timeframe at DD23 2025.

 

[chadwpalm]

Just because something is smaller doesn't mean that it isn't constrained by chronological construction processes. Also important to note that the rides are usually the first thing worked on in lands, so they often take the longest. They start restaurants and shops later because they take less time and then can be done simultaneously with the second half of ride construction and testing. Anything is possible, but if I were a betting woman I would put a good chunk of change on Coco opening late 28 or early to mid 29.

If I'm reading this correctly, you are insinuating that it is going to take longer to build a C-Ticket (D-Ticket at best) than it did to build all of Galaxy's Edge?

Let me PM you my address and you can send me whatever it is you're inhaling.

 

[wityblack]

If I'm reading this correctly, you are insinuating that it is going to take longer to build a C-Ticket (D-Ticket at best) than it did to build all of Galaxy's Edge?

Let me PM you my address and you can send me whatever it is you're inhaling.

First, we don't know when in 2026 it is going to break ground, my guess is February at the earliest, but realistically April or May. Second, I say best case scenario this takes 2.5 years. Rise would have taken the same amount of time to build with or without Galaxy's Edge around it. Anything is possible though.

 

[BrianLo]

If I'm reading this correctly, you are insinuating that it is going to take longer to build a C-Ticket (D-Ticket at best) than it did to build all of Galaxy's Edge?

Let me PM you my address and you can send me whatever it is you're inhaling.

That’s not what she said at all. As they’ve clarified, even 2.5 years takes us to late 2028 and maybe early 2029. Galaxies edge wasn’t built in series, it was built in parallel. I hate comparisons like “it took them this long to build a whole park”… ya, scale only matters so much to the project cycle. A new build ride is a new ride, whether it comes in a land or in an annex.

The whole reason I feel like they specifically mentioned this projects date was that it is the latest in the series and they needed to assuage concerns preemptively.

Furthermore; Josh mislead the audience if this was internally a C ticket. I’m dubious that he chose to throw around Pirates of the Caribbean, but he did.

 

[truecoat]

Furthermore; Josh mislead the audience if this was internally a C ticket. I’m dubious that he chose to throw around Pirates of the Caribbean, but he did.

He said, "Imagineers drew inspiration for this attraction from the Haunted Mansion and Pirates of the Caribbean."

Linking a ride to those two seems more like E-ticket vibes but 8-passenger boats seem more like D or C tickets.

 

[ᗩLᘿᑕ ֊ᗩζᗩᗰ]

An off the cuff comment organically conflating "Spooky vibe" and "Boat Ride" with the iconic Disney attractions. I highly doubt the Coco boat ride will be on par with HM or PotC

 

[mickEblu]

That’s not what she said at all. As they’ve clarified, even 2.5 years takes us to late 2028 and maybe early 2029. Galaxies edge wasn’t built in series, it was built in parallel. I hate comparisons like “it took them this long to build a whole park”… ya, scale only matters so much to the project cycle. A new build ride is a new ride, whether it comes in a land or in an annex.

The whole reason I feel like they specifically mentioned this projects date was that it is the latest in the series and they needed to assuage concerns preemptively.

Furthermore; Josh mislead the audience if this was internally a C ticket. I’m dubious that he chose to throw around Pirates of the Caribbean, but he did.

Taking the confusing ticket classification out of it, I’m expecting or at least hoping for something on the level of Frozen at Hong Kong. If it’s greater than that in scope/ scale that would be wonderful.

Internally I’m sure Disney looks at Frozen in Hong Kong as an E. The fandom I’m sure is more mixed as the line can kind of blur between D/ E these days. I think a lot of times a perfectly fine E ticket will get demoted to D because it’s not ROTR or RSR. To me that just means that we should come up with a new classification for those Mega E’s or the alternative - just stop trying to use an antiquated classification system that never made total sense and especially doesn’t through a modern lens.

 

[BrianLo]

He said, "Imagineers drew inspiration for this attraction from the Haunted Mansion and Pirates of the Caribbean."

Linking a ride to those two seems more like E-ticket vibes but 8-passenger boats seem more like D or C tickets.

To clarify, I actually also think it’s a D. I’m just taking issue with the it’s probably a C comment. D’Amaro isn’t dumb, that’s a bridge too far if this is a very small attraction.

 

[BrianLo]

Taking the confusing ticket classification out of it, I’m expecting or at least hoping for something on the level of Frozen at Hong Kong. If it’s greater than that in scope/ scale that would be wonderful.

Internally I’m sure Disney looks at Frozen in Hong Kong as an E. The fandom I’m sure is more mixed as the line can kind of blur between D/ E these days. I think a lot of times a perfectly fine E ticket will get demoted to D because it’s not ROTR or RSR. To me that just means that we should come up with a new classification for those Mega E’s or the alternative - just stop trying to use an antiquated classification system that never made total sense and especially doesn’t through a modern lens.

Somewhere along the lines of Frozen Ever After or Rapunzel in Tokyo is also where my heads at. I think the commentary references a big scale village scene as opposed to the exclusive hallways that is Frozen.

 

[Disney Irish]

Taking the confusing ticket classification out of it, I’m expecting or at least hoping for something on the level of Frozen at Hong Kong. If it’s greater than that in scope/ scale that would be wonderful.

Internally I’m sure Disney looks at Frozen in Hong Kong as an E. The fandom I’m sure is more mixed as the line can kind of blur between D/ E these days. I think a lot of times a perfectly fine E ticket will get demoted to D because it’s not ROTR or RSR. To me that just means that we should come up with a new classification for those Mega E’s or the alternative - just stop trying to use an antiquated classification system that never made total sense and especially doesn’t through a modern lens.

In all fairness, I think these days Disney (and many fans alike) use the E ticket term to just mean the latest attraction rather than just purely about quality or size/scope. I know that many fan sites like this one try to attribute quality or size/scope to it, but that was never even the case back when it really was an actual ticket system. As you had even smaller attractions like the old Pack Mule ride was an E ticket at one point.

But I agree that maybe a new classification system should be created, I just don't know if you'll get everyone to agree as quality/size is subjective and can differ from one person to the next.

 

[Professortango1]

In all fairness, I think these days Disney (and many fans alike) use the E ticket term to just mean the latest attraction rather than just purely about quality or size/scope. I know that many fan sites like this one try to attribute quality or size/scope to it, but that was never even the case back when it really was an actual ticket system. As you had even smaller attractions like the old Pack Mule ride was an E ticket at one point.

But I agree that maybe a new classification system should be created, I just don't know if you'll get everyone to agree as quality/size is subjective and can differ from one person to the next.

I mean, riding actual mules all over a themed Frontierland landscape sounds like an E to me. I wouldn't call that small, especially in the parks first 10 years.

 

[mickEblu]

Somewhere along the lines of Frozen Ever After or Rapunzel in Tokyo is also where my heads at. I think the commentary references a big scale village scene as opposed to the exclusive hallways that is Frozen.

Rapunzel? I hope not. That one seems a little underwhelming outside of the lantern scene. It’s also pretty short right?

 

[Disney Irish]

I mean, riding actual mules all over a themed Frontierland landscape sounds like an E to me. I wouldn't call that small, especially in the parks first 10 years.

Considering it started its life as a D ticket when the park opened, yeah its "small" in that regard.

Its an arbitrary system, always has been. Its meant to denote popularity not size/scope, ie the latest and/or most popular attractions.

 

[MistaDee]

He said, "Imagineers drew inspiration for this attraction from the Haunted Mansion and Pirates of the Caribbean."

Linking a ride to those two seems more like E-ticket vibes but 8-passenger boats seem more like D or C tickets.

"Drawing inspiration from" doesn't mean it'll be on the same scale. One could also say Pirates drew inspiration from the Tiki Room's AA's and effects while still being very different scale experiences.

Taking the confusing ticket classification out of it, I’m expecting or at least hoping for something on the level of Frozen at Hong Kong. If it’s greater than that in scope/ scale that would be wonderful.

Internally I’m sure Disney looks at Frozen in Hong Kong as an E. The fandom I’m sure is more mixed as the line can kind of blur between D/ E these days. I think a lot of times a perfectly fine E ticket will get demoted to D because it’s not ROTR or RSR. To me that just means that we should come up with a new classification for those Mega E’s or the alternative - just stop trying to use an antiquated classification system that never made total sense and especially doesn’t through a modern lens.

Somewhere along the lines of Frozen Ever After or Rapunzel in Tokyo is also where my heads at. I think the commentary references a big scale village scene as opposed to the exclusive hallways that is Frozen.

Whether the scale of this Coco experience turns out to be more of a Tokyo Frozen (E?), a Hong Kong Frozen (D?) or a Tokyo Rapunzel (C+ or D-?) is the biggest question for me once we have confirmation of where it will be physically located

 

[jmuboy]

I am expecting Coco to be a STRONG D ticket boat ride. Not POTC and better than Gran Fiesta Tour.

 

[coffeefan]

I'm going with E-ticket on par with attractions at Tokyo Fantasy Springs. DCA really needs it to be... It's also the "first" Coco attraction but not the last, so I think Disney knows they need to make a strong showing.

 

[Misted Compass]

Newer rides definitely can live up to Pirates/Mansion (Sindbad at TDS), but I don't think 2020s Imagineering has what it takes to design something of that scale. I'm thinking something along the lines of the Frozen rides in Paris and Hong Kong.

 

[PiratesMansion]

I mean, riding actual mules all over a themed Frontierland landscape sounds like an E to me. I wouldn't call that small, especially in the parks first 10 years.

I imagine the primary reason the mules were E ticket was because between the number of cast needed and the mules, it was quite an expensive attraction to run.

Of course, I'm sure it was a lot more exciting to go on a pack mule ride in the early decades of Disneyland than it sounds to me personally right now.