MK Villains Land Announced for Walt Disney World's Magic Kingdom

[Bocabear]

God please nothing from Wish... Terrible movie, terrible villain...
Now Frollo was a good villain they have done nothing with....
Scar seems unlikely too since he is the only villain that is an animal....(Ursula is half animal)Malefecint, The Evil Queen from Snow White, Ursula, Hook, Mother Gothel, Jafar,Hook.... Cruella was rather redeemed with the last film...Maybe they should leave her out of it.....since they have taken her down a new road....merely misunderstood brilliant artist and designer.....The villains have to be the irredeemable ones....

 

[Jedi14]

Cruella was rather redeemed with the last film...Maybe they should leave her out of it.....since they have taken her down a new road....merely misunderstood brilliant artist and designer.....The villains have to be the irredeemable ones....

The live action movie version of Cruella is not the same one as the animated Cruella that will be in the land. So she was not “redeemed”.

 

[Bocabear]

so we know for sure she will be in the land?

 

[Jedi14]

so we know for sure she will be in the land?

She was in the initial announcement video, and in the update at D23 Brazil. Why would she not be there?

 

[BrianLo]

The Brazil image is probably the breadth of who is featured.

Granted it is all Lorcana card art, but they have a lot of unrepresented villains that have cards like Scar, Ratigan, madame Mim, Frolo, Prince John, King Candy etc etc.

 

[Bocabear]

I guess a lot of that could also be dictated with the actual style of the land...
King Candy would not necessarily work next to The Evil Queen from Snow White or Malefecint... I am starting to think more and more that Villains land is going to mostly just be a Meet and Greet facility with a ride...

 

[Jedi14]

I am starting to think more and more that Villains land is going to mostly just be a Meet and Greet facility with a ride...

Why do you think that?

 

[Bocabear]

Just with the way the parks in general seem to always be pushing meet and greets.... It is inexpensive...attractions are expensive... We know nothing about the plans except it looks like one rollercoaster....and then I think what would be most disappointing.... and that is generally the route they have been choosing lately....lol

 

[HauntedPirate]

Because Covid halted construction on those projects, and Disney didn't receive the parks income during the closures. By the time construction ended on what ws continuing (Ratatouille, Guardians and Tron), funding had already be reassigned/spent on new projects. The three you keep on mentioning:
Play became instantly Outdated by being inspired by 2018 Wreck-It Ralph Internet and interactive features that are becoming less common
Epcot's Spine was redesigned to fit a new budget, still opened and features the main anchors that was announced (Moana, Dreamers Point, Connections and Creations and a Festival Center)
Mary Poppins was an expensive teacups attraction themed to Mary Poppins Returns rather than the original movie. They could always revive it but of all those Epcot announcements, a flat ride is never Disney's priority and only a bonus if there is funding left

Point of order - Remy's was supposed to open Summer 2020. I recall wondering and asking prior to our trip if it may be having soft opens in March 2020 when my family and I were there, only days before the shutdown happened (we flew home March 11).

PHOTOS - Work is moving quickly at Remy's Ratatouille Adventure in Epcot's France pavilion

Does the May 26 closure of Spaceship Earth confirm a May opening for the new Epcot ride?

www.wdwmagic.com

 

[ChewbaccaYourMum]

He also talked about the Play! Pavilion....and Mary Poppins....and the spectacular new Epcot spine....lol

It feels like whenever I read your posts it's like you want SO BADLY for Disney to cancel things just so you can be like "TOLD YOU THEY ARE BAD BAD BAD" lol

 

[UNCgolf]

The Brazil image is probably the breadth of who is featured.

Granted it is all Lorcana card art, but they have a lot of unrepresented villains that have cards like Scar, Ratigan, madame Mim, Frolo, Prince John, King Candy etc etc.

I still don't see how Cruella, Gaston, the Wicked Stepmother, or Hook fit even a little with the rest of those magical villains -- honestly, Gaston would probably want to kill most of the others as monsters. It's one of the reasons I don't expect this land to actually work very well. It's really not a good organizing concept.

 

[James Alucobond]

I still don't see how Cruella, Gaston, the Wicked Stepmother, or Hook fit even a little with the rest of those magical villains -- honestly, Gaston would probably want to kill most of the others as monsters. It's one of the reasons I don't expect this land to actually work very well. It's really not a good organizing concept.

Gaston and Lady Tremaine (along with the stepsisters) also already have established meet-and-greet terrain that works well. I’m not sure I’m totally convinced the art means much of anything. I’d prefer they keep the more mundane villains out and reserve the Villains area for the fantastical and magical of their ilk.

 

[Jedi14]

I still don't see how Cruella, Gaston, the Wicked Stepmother, or Hook fit even a little with the rest of those magical villains -- honestly, Gaston would probably want to kill most of the others as monsters. It's one of the reasons I don't expect this land to actually work very well. It's really not a good organizing concept.

Don’t question the logistics of why the villains are grouped together. That’s just how it works at the park.

 

[Ayla]

I still don't see how Cruella, Gaston, the Wicked Stepmother, or Hook fit even a little with the rest of those magical villains -- honestly, Gaston would probably want to kill most of the others as monsters. It's one of the reasons I don't expect this land to actually work very well. It's really not a good organizing concept.

I agree. I've said from the beginning this is a good concept in theory, but once you start into the details, it falls apart.

 

[James Alucobond]

I agree. I've said from the beginning this is a good concept in theory, but once you start into the details, it falls apart.

It doesn’t really have to fall apart as long as you’re selective.

 

[ᗩLᘿᑕ ֊ᗩζᗩᗰ]

I still don't see how Cruella, Gaston, the Wicked Stepmother, or Hook fit even a little with the rest of those magical villains -- honestly, Gaston would probably want to kill most of the others as monsters. It's one of the reasons I don't expect this land to actually work very well. It's really not a good organizing concept.

While I understand the initial enthusiasm for a dedicated Villains Land, I strongly believe that integrating villain attractions or shows throughout the existing MK lands would have been more effective use of the IP - rather than concentrating everything into a compacted space. Each villain deserves their own distinct environment. Maleficent's castle shouldn't share space with Ursula's underwater lair. I just don't see how it's all going to work?!

How are they going to pull off the immersive world-building and tie it together with a serviceable backstory? I feel like they're really setting themselves up for failure here. They risk diminishing the characters by forcing them into an artificially constrained environment. The entire concept seems incredibly iffy and in retrospect, a possible knee-jerk reactionary announcement.

 

[mattpeto]

While I understand the initial enthusiasm for a dedicated Villains Land, I strongly believe that integrating villain attractions or shows throughout the existing lands would have been more effective use of the IP; rather than concentrating everything into a compacted space. Each villain deserves their own distinct environment - Maleficent's castle shouldn't share space with Ursula's underwater lair... I just don't see how it's all going to work.

How are they going to pull off the immersive world-building and tie it together with a serviceable backstory? I feel like they're really setting themselves up for failure here. They risk diminishing the characters by forcing them into an artificially constrained environment. Seems incredibly iffy.

I guess we will see how they pull it off at Hollywood Studios in just a few weeks.

Did you see “Once Upon a Studio”? It’s not the first time they brought characters and villains from different films together. Wreck it Ralph franchise also demonstrated how they can integrate all the Disney princesses in a story. (Note-Really surprised they didn’t do anything next with that story beat, that was mega popular).

 

[James Alucobond]

Each villain deserves their own distinct environment - Maleficent's castle shouldn't share space with Ursula's underwater lair... I just don't see how it's all going to work.

How are they going to pull off the immersive world-building and tie it together with a serviceable backstory? I feel like they're really setting themselves up for failure here. They risk diminishing the characters by forcing them into an artificially constrained environment. Seems incredibly iffy.

This isn’t what should happen at all, though. The characters don’t actually deserve “their own” spaces. That’s not how the lands in MK were traditionally organized. Aside from perhaps having an iconic focal point like Maleficent’s castle, the rest should really feel like a unified village, lair, or whatever, not a series of facsimiles of film-specific spaces.

 

[BrianLo]

I still don't see how Cruella, Gaston, the Wicked Stepmother, or Hook fit even a little with the rest of those magical villains -- honestly, Gaston would probably want to kill most of the others as monsters. It's one of the reasons I don't expect this land to actually work very well. It's really not a good organizing concept.

I think of it more like the Disney Princess line. Logically it doesn’t hold to scrutiny, the princesses are not besties. But the Disney princesses are.

It’s almost the same type of meta that the fab 5 have to adhere to. Which doesn’t make much sense if you want to hold it to any type of canonical standard.

Not an excuse. Just the bad explanation. Like trying to make sense of a parade.

 

[RosR9]

Just with the way the parks in general seem to always be pushing meet and greets.... It is inexpensive...attractions are expensive... We know nothing about the plans except it looks like one rollercoaster....and then I think what would be most disappointing.... and that is generally the route they have been choosing lately....lol

I’m hoping their desire for that sweet LL cash will deter them from having meet and greets over rides

Also super surprised there’s no oogie boogie rep in villains