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Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

BrianLo

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It’s ok, Walter believes all movies make endless money in the end because of D+. Regardless of performance. He’s said so about 50 times now.

He’s also been aggressively petitioning for Iger to get a contract extension, it’s a bit hard to take someone so seriously when they are such a company shill. 😉
 

TalkingHead

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Yes, it is. We all know that Citizen Cane, The Wizard of Oz, It's a Wonderful Life, The Thing, The Shawshank Redemption, The Big Lebowski, Office Space, Children of Men, etc. didn't make money at the box office because they were terrible movies.
Your mistake was comparing actual movies to the never-ending stream of episodic junk that pours out of the Marvel content factory.
 

Dranth

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So we’re gonna do the word games/semantics with absolutes, eh?
The poster was providing an absolutist opinion:

In the old days when a studio released a movie that didn't sell tickets it was just a bad movie that didn't sell tickets. Oh well.
I am just pointing out some of the many examples out where the posters own presented logic fails.

In addition, they posted that in direct response to possible large price increases to tickets because of new tariffs implying that movies that may be released under those tariffs that don't do well at the box office are just bad. Pricing apparently doesn't have any real impact despite us seeing the exact opposite on the parks front?

Look, we all know there are plenty of good to great movies that fail at the box office and many trash movies that do well so let's stop trying to pretend that the box office is some be all indication of the quality of a given movie. It is a good place to start but leaves a VERY incomplete picture.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
The poster was providing an absolutist opinion:


I am just pointing out some of the many examples out where the posters own presented logic fails.

In addition, they posted that in direct response to possible large price increases to tickets because of new tariffs implying that movies that may be released under those tariffs that don't do well at the box office are just bad. Pricing apparently doesn't have any real impact despite us seeing the exact opposite on the parks front?

Look, we all know there are plenty of good to great movies that fail at the box office and many trash movies that do well so let's stop trying to pretend that the box office is some be all indication of the quality of a given movie. It is a good place to start but leaves a VERY incomplete picture.

Yeah…but you know it’s disingenuous to claim absolutes

Obviously there are outliers…but the point is valid: most movies tank because they suck…in the wash. It’s patterns that matter…not individualized case studies

That’s what’s been going on for the Dis…just really bad story and character choices…

The added wrinkle is that the collector movie market has started to possible reject things due to saturation?

It certainly seems possible. We might be getting “no mas”on MCU and live action remakes. So they are gonna have to address that…

…more frozen…I’m sure. 😉
 

DKampy

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Would $48 million have been considered bad for an original R-rated horror movie?

Get Out had a $33 million opening. Us was an all-time high that benefited from Peele's established reputation after
That is why I went with Us as opposed to Get Out….. both were original horror…..but Us came out after Peele had establish himself with Get Out…. Just as Coogler is already an establish director with the likes of Black Panther and Creed
 

DKampy

Well-Known Member
Black Panther also, technically Deadpool too but that was Fox at the time and not part of the MCU, but for the most part I agree that Thunderbolts is in the same ballpark as other debut stories.
Deadpool did cross my mind… but as you said it was not the MCU… so I did not count it…. For some reason Black Panther slipped my mind as I typed right before bed…. But that movie had circumstances that were outside the MCU brand
 

Tony the Tigger

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I understand that it is difficult, if not impossible, to discuss box office numbers without getting political - I appreciate and thank those who have managed to do it - but the no politics rule still applies.
May I ask for clarification? (Publicly only so that the group are all on the same page.)

I am at Epcot right now, so didn’t read back to see what got deleted or not. I posted a news article without political comment, which directly affects this discussion in a huge way. Is that cool? I presume we can discuss the tariffs without saying comments about the person implementing them? If these tariffs happen, they will have a huge effect on this discussion. Thanks in advance. I did notice some posts crossed that line. I specifically tried not to.
 

Vegas Disney Fan

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