Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

[easyrowrdw]

Not sure how you mean “filler.” From the reviews, Thunderbolts is the rare MCU film that is ABOUT something, with a unique vision from the writer and director. As to connections to the larger storyline, word is the film is very important.

I kinda have the same thoughts as Tony. It's a movie that has a bunch of second or third level characters in it. I look at the pictures and I'm like, "Oh it's Bucky and the other Black Widow girl and who is the big guy with the beard again? Am I supposed to know who all these other people are?"

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

The trailers for Stitch are actually winning me over. I've never seen the original. Might just get me to the theater.

Thunderbolts: I don't really know what to make of it. I'm familiar with a few of the characters. Might be a filler MCU movie. Even that should be a decent popcorn flick.

We've been doing the movie theater a little more regularly lately. It really has gotten expensive. At least I can use my Chase Disney Visa rewards points to pay for tickets to Disney movies.

Went to see The Amateur on Tuesday night. It was the only thing that seemed interesting. It was good, probably could have watched it at home, but it was basically "date night." I think what kept it interesting was the main guy was not a trained assassin, expert military guy, or anything else (hence the title.) It was not over the top big booms and what not, more clever ways of getting revenge for the murder of his wife. It was the less action-y action flick. Better than "Taken," I thought.

Stitch is probably the best example of how a Disney property can dominate via brand saturation…

It was kinda a nothing when it was released…but has pumped product everyday since…like a thunderous machine

I think it’s gonna reap 10 figures…but I’ve been wrong before

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Not sure how you mean “filler.” From the reviews, Thunderbolts is the rare MCU film that is ABOUT something, with a unique vision from the writer and director. As to connections to the larger storyline, word is the film is very important.

It’s filler because it’s B characters

We keep trying to act like that doesn’t matter…but it surely does.

Pay your draws…don’t off them

Anyone notice this doom thing is a trainwreck per the trades?

 

[brideck]

I kinda have the same thoughts as Tony. It's a movie that has a bunch of second or third level characters in it. I look at the pictures and I'm like, "Oh it's Bucky and the other Black Widow girl and who is the big guy with the beard again? Am I supposed to know who all these other people are?"

Why would you need to know who characters are before seeing a movie? If it's doing its job, you'll learn enough to know them by watching it.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Why would you need to know who characters are before seeing a movie? If it's doing its job, you'll learn enough to know them by watching it.

In 1989…a visionary named “Al gore” invented the internet

It changed the landscape over time where success is determined by real time, multimedia saturation

It’s not based on some stoners reading comics in a San Bernardino shop in 1974…

There is no way you’re an Xer with this Pollyanna stuff…can’t be

 

[easyrowrdw]

Why would you need to know who characters are before seeing a movie? If it's doing its job, you'll learn enough to know them by watching it.

I didn't say I did. I said that was the reaction I had when I saw pictures of the movie.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I assume we’re all talking about the Marvel movie with 89% positive ratings on RT?

No? Still Zegler?

Man, a lot of folks are so insecure in their principles that they react really aggressively to anyone refusing to tell them what good people they are.

Uh…took you 5 seconds to oh so cleverly hint at somekinda of vast anti Disney conspiracy

You’re playing 4D chess as always

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I didn't say I did. I said that was the reaction I had when I saw pictures of the movie.

The marketing had been really bad…I think they’ve been stung by flops and hedged a little

But it will be nice if the movie powers through

 

[Casper Gutman]

It’s filler because it’s B characters

We keep trying to act like that doesn’t matter…but it surely does.

Pay your draws…don’t off them

Anyone notice this doom thing is a trainwreck per the trades?

It’s not B characters. Captain America, Iron Man, Thor - those are B characters. These are C and D characters, like Starlord and Shang-Chi and Groot. The “level” of the character has nothing to do with the quality of the film.

Would you like to cite a source for Doom being a “train wreck?”

 

[rd805]

I'm actually decently excited about Thunderbolts, and expect I'll see it somewhere in a theater (maybe drive-in?); but the concept of the anti-hero group has been a bit overplayed in recent years so this will have to do something a little different to be "interesting."

I think I'll see Stich as well -- again, probably a Drive-in two-for experience as I'm sure it'll be played in a lot of double features. **I'm lucky to have 2 drive-in theaters near me, one of which has two screens; and another one not TOO far away that does retro and themed / throwback showings every week.

 

[Casper Gutman]

Thunderbolts* is an extremely well-reviewed film with strong thematic throughlines and character arcs from an auteurist writer and director starring a cast of critically acclaimed actors. It is also integral to the ongoing MCU storyline. It’s exactly the sort of film Marvel should be making.

If you don’t like superhero films, fine. But if you’ve enjoyed the MCU, it’s odd to be uninterested in the film because the characters sold fewer copies in the 80s.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

It’s not B characters. Captain America, Iron Man, Thor - those are B characters. These are C and D characters, like Starlord and Shang-Chi and Groot. The “level” of the character has nothing to do with the quality of the film.

Would you like to cite a source for Doom being a “train wreck?”

Ok…so like…a bigger longshot?

Actually…fantastic four are B characters…comic sacred cows that can’t generate the juice for the squeeze in general pop culture

Very much muppets….more on that later

I do laugh everytime you say “quality of the film”…

It’s Disney…not Shakespeare in the park

Are you sure you are in the right place?

 

[donaldtoo]

Ya’ know what would really be fun…
To get everyone on this whole forum in a convention room together with their user name tags and see how that turns out…!!!!!

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

Why would you need to know who characters are before seeing a movie? If it's doing its job, you'll learn enough to know them by watching it.

Yep, have people forgotten that the MCU was build using Iron Man as a foundation, a character with minimal mainstream awareness?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Thunderbolts* is an extremely well-reviewed film with strong thematic throughlines and character arcs from an auteurist writer and director starring a cast of critically acclaimed actors. It is also integral to the ongoing MCU storyline. It’s exactly the sort of film Marvel should be making.

If you don’t like superhero films, fine. But if you’ve enjoyed the MCU, it’s odd to be uninterested in the film because the characters sold fewer copies in the 80s.

Dude…I hope it’s a good movie

I’ll see it

But you’re using way too high faluting words there for it

Marvel flick

Critics aren’t real people

 

[Casper Gutman]

Dude…I hope it’s a good movie

I’ll see it

But you’re using way too high faluting words there for it

Marvel flick

Critics aren’t real people

The current critical and box office darling is a movie about gangsters fighting vampires directed by a once and future MCU director. Pop art is just as much art as high art, even if the subject matter can be boiled down to something silly.

 

[brideck]

In 1989…a visionary named “Al gore” invented the internet

It changed the landscape over time where success is determined by real time, multimedia saturation

And people learned to turn their brains off nearly all of the time. Alas.

There is no way you’re an Xer with this Pollyanna stuff…can’t be

Of course I am. You long for the original Star Wars to come back. I long for the time when people read things and thought about them and didn't just connect themselves to the funnel of algorithm-sorted content that their devices feed them.

 

[Casper Gutman]

Yep, have people forgotten that the MCU was build using Iron Man as a foundation, a character with minimal mainstream awareness?

People think that because the films have made Iron Man an integral part of the zeitgeist he must always have been A list. People don’t know pop culture history. Heck, they barely remember what was happening TO THEIR OWN LIVES five years ago!

 

[Casper Gutman]

Right now we have a Marvel film in theaters that critics are calling “gratifyingly fresh and soulful” and a Star Wars series that is being widely praised as the best and most socially relevant program of the year.

People who are still complaining don’t want excellent franchise media, they want a Time Machine that makes them 12 again.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

And people learned to turn their brains off nearly all of the time. Alas.

I can’t say I disagree with that. But peeing upwind Is rarely successful

Of course I am. You long for the original Star Wars to come back. I long for the time when people read things and thought about them and didn't just connect themselves to the funnel of algorithm-sorted content that their devices feed them.

So no community college then?

Actually you’re more of the shoulder generation…ninja turtles. We need to work on your cynicism

And I actually don’t wish for Star Wars to “come back”…the theme is always the same: look at why it resonated and follow that path…it’s not hard. But terrible management screws up everything.