Looks good with CP to me. Really good.Portofino Bay is a Universal property that's actually Mediterranean themed.
Helios is about as "Mediterranean" as a Vegas strip hotel...except the Bellagio looks better inside and out.
Don't confuse grand backdrop with centerpiece. We have Kronos on one end and this on the other.It's themed about as much as Disney's Riviera. A hotel that's functioning as the park centerpiece should look impressive; not like a random resort hotel you might find anywhere
Looks good with CP to me. Really good.
Yes, I think it is a shame they went so generic with the hotel as it undercuts the whole CP area for me. The images we're seeing of the fountains at night with synchronised lights and music look very nice. It gives a sense of how a fountain could have elevated the new Epcot spine. However, there's no getting around that big hotel tower in the background which looks even more like a generic hotel when you see room lights on. The overall effect is thus more a scaled down version of the Bellagio as in a tourist destination rather than an immersive theme park land.Helios is about as "Mediterranean" as a Vegas strip hotel...except the Bellagio looks better inside and out.
Precisely! *fist bump*This thread has literally turned into same few posters high-fiving each other and saying “exactly.”
What a joke.![]()
It could be a bare CMU box and you’d be telling us they did a great job.
That’s fair. I think you could change out Island Tower, Gran Destino, and Helios and they’d all look vaguely the same to me.You are thinking of The Polynesian's latest.
Island Tower to me and Bay Lake definitely are lower for me, but that has to do with the arches and look Helios has, the entrance garden/plaza as well as what is inside for those paying to stay there.That’s fair. I think you could change out Island Tower, Gran Destino, and Helios and they’d all look vaguely the same to me.
You can see the return to European Infuence like Phantasialand in some areas and other European garden parks in others.Universal is breaking a lot of rules in the Disney Theme Park Design Rule Book.
Bold move, we will see how it works out.
And Luna Park on Coney Island around 1910.You can see the return to European Infuence like Phantasialand in some areas and other European garden parks in others.
Which I have praised so profusely….You are thinking of The Polynesian's latest.
The difference is, even if you don't love the Helios, most habe stated see far more character in The Helios.Which I have praised so profusely….
The videos of Helios are really underwhelming...
Rooms are small and Hilton Garden Inn kinda stuff. Not really premium, let alone luxury... 325sq is not premium.
The decor style is really contemporary which in itself isn't a problem, but it just looks really sterile and interchangeable.. like it lacks character and warmth. I don't really see a lot of that decor aging well either. The lobby sounds incredibly loud... and the bar and resturant are topped by almost any random casino bar in Vegas. These aren't destination level venues.
The park views look amazing.. I don't have a beef with its exterior... except the pool complex being so far away is a negative.
The saving grace is they aren't asking Disney stupid rates.. but rates still every snapshot I look at are excessive.. especially without Express pass. No way I'm paying $600+/night just to be next to the park. Random date in Feb.. still 520+ a night.
Anyone know of a rate chart or something that shows when these cheaper rate windows supposedly are?
Anyone know of a rate chart or something that shows when these cheaper rate windows supposedly are?
However, I don't understand the Vegas comparisons, as Vegas has a well-documented tendency to do everything up more glitzy than Orlando. We were never getting anything on a Vegas-like scale.
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