Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

[Trauma]

They really do. I hope I get over the bad aesthetics when I watch it next week.

Just so I understand how things work, since they are cgi it’s ok to call them dwarves right ?

 

[brideck]

Just so I understand how things work, since they are cgi it’s ok to call them dwarves right ?

Dwarves is a perfectly acceptable term for real, live people with dwarfism. Little people also works.

 

[Trauma]

I don’t know - these are some really great comments on her part.

Rachel Zegler Talks Diversity, 'Snow White' Lessons for Future Generations: “I Hope We'll See a New Dawn of Kindness and Acceptance” — The Hollywood Reporter

The star of Disney's upcoming controversial live-action remake speaks about what she wants audiences to take away from her heroine's battle with Gal Gadot's Evil Queen, and she reveals Steven Spielberg's "Taylor Swift Easter egg" reaction when she was cast.

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Wow what can you even say about this level of crazy.

 

[Trauma]

Dwarves is a perfectly acceptable term for real, live people with dwarfism. Little people also works.

Thanks I thought it wasn’t acceptable for some reason.

 

[LittleBuford]

Dwarves is a perfectly acceptable term for real, live people with dwarfism. Little people also works.

Actually, that form of the plural is reserved for Tolkien’s creatures. The normal plural is “dwarfs”.

 

[LittleBuford]

Just so I understand how things work, since they are cgi it’s ok to call them dwarves right ?

I’m not sure what you’re getting at. I have never said it would be offensive to have dwarfs in the film, though I do think the views of people with dwarfism matter more than mine in this regard. I personally don’t think the CGI route was the best; it doesn’t really skirt the issue (they still read as human little people), and the results look bad.

 

[easyrowrdw]

To reiterate: the rage at Zegler began because of her race. Her comments about the original film, taken out of context, were amplified because of the rage based on her race. People are free to criticize her comments. They are not free to rewrite the history behind the hate campaign against her.

If this board is meant to stay apolitical (an impossible goal in any case), why is this nakedly political topic allowed to fester?

In what way were her comments taken out of context?

I do remember the Snow Brown comments after her casting. I’m sure that made her comments even more of an issue for some folks. But I don’t see that as taking the comments out of context. They were made in more than one interview from what I recall

 

[MisterPenguin]

Actually, that form of the plural is reserved for Tolkien’s creatures. The normal plural is “dwarfs”.

Do the elfs on the shelfs dressed in festive leafs know the correct plurals? They await hearing the hoofs of Santa's reindeer on the roofs each year.

 

[brideck]

Actually, that form of the plural is reserved for Tolkien’s creatures. The normal plural is “dwarfs”.

Well, not just Tolkien, but fantasy, yeah. I spend too much time and energy on DnD apparently.

 

[Disney Irish]

Wow what can you even say about this level of crazy.

I don't see anything "crazy" with what what said.

 

[TP2000]

My initial reply to you was deleted, so let me try again:

Really? That seems silly. You are one of the most mature and polite posters here. I can't imagine you going off the rails. The way things disappear sometimes here continues to baffle me, but here I am, still posting.

Yes, that's it. I'm not sure what else Disney could have done anyway. As has been pointed out to you multiple times, Zegler is not a regular employee, but an actor under contract who had already completed the job. There were no practicable measures the company could have taken against her at that point.

I get your point there. Again, the Jungle Cruise Skipper analogy on display. I think the practicable measure the company will take will be seen from March 22nd onward, when they don't hire her again for another film for any Disney studio.

I don't put much stock in what celebrities say. I'm much more concerned about the words and deeds of those who have an actual impact on our lives.

I don't either, but some of them sure make waves trying to insult at least half their audience. You wonder what they're thinking. Imagine a plumber in town saying he dislikes Biden voters and won't unclog their drains. Not smart business.

And if @Casper Gutman is to be believed, "the most powerful people in the nation" are the people commenting on celebrities. Or something. I can't quite follow that train of thought he has on that. I assume he's talking about YouTubers.

 

[Chi84]

Wow what can you even say about this level of crazy.

What did she say that you thought was crazy?

 

[BirdbyBird]

Actually, that form of the plural is reserved for Tolkien’s creatures. The normal plural is “dwarfs”.

good info thanks

 

[Trauma]

What did she say that you thought was crazy?

I’m not getting into this it’s not the place.

 

[Chi84]

I’m not getting into this it’s not the place.

You seemed to have no trouble calling it crazy. When she makes sensible, kind remarks people discount them.

 

[Trauma]

I’m not sure what you’re getting at. I have never said it would be offensive to have dwarfs in the film, though I do think the views of people with dwarfism matter more than mine in this regard. I personally don’t think the CGI route was the best; it doesn’t really skirt the issue (they still read as human little people), and the results look bad.

I didn’t say you. I just thought I heard people saying they should be called little people.

It was just a question I honestly didn’t know.

 

[brideck]

I don't see anything "crazy" with what what said.

For real. The source piece is an even better read -- https://www.allure.com/story/rachel-zegler-cover-interview

And if @Casper Gutman is to be believed, "the most powerful people in the nation" are the people commenting on celebrities.

No? I don't have to stretch my noggin' too far to think of celebrities that our current President has felt the need to comment on. Just Google "<name of President here> celebrity feuds"

 

[Trauma]

You seemed to have no trouble calling it crazy. When she makes sensible, kind remarks people discount them.

Yes because I believe they are crazy. I know you are smart enough to realize not everyone thinks like you.

According to recent polling the vast majority of people do not think like you.

I don’t know what any of this has to do with anything though.

She is entitled to her thoughts.

I am free to call her crazy.

I do not wish her any harm. I hope she has a successful life that brings happiness to many.

 

[LittleBuford]

I didn’t say you. I just thought I heard people saying they should be called little people.

It was just a question I honestly didn’t know.

I believe “little people” is the preferred term, and it’s the one I would ordinarily use.

 

[Chi84]

According to recent polling the vast majority of people do not think like you.

What was that poll?