DHS Monster Inc Land Coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios

[Casper Gutman]

Whatever show ends up here does need to live up to Muppet Vision, and Rogers the Musical shows they can make a whole new theater show with multiple songs, for a show that only lasted 3 months. This is also going to be the third new show they're developing for this park and probably the one they need to get right the most

For Pete’s sake, Disney doesn’t NEED to get anything right!

Tiana should have FINALLY put this nonsense to bed… if the previous two decades hadn’t.

No one will punish Disney. No one will hurt their bottom line. Fans will keep making excuses.

I just wish fans had ANY sort of accumulated memory. We go through the same thing over and over and over. Everyone’s always shocked! And forgets a month later.

 

[CJR]

Honestly, I'm disappointed, but our complaining did get them to add a second attraction by keeping the theater a show. They heard us and responded to it, so I'm grateful for that. I wish they heard us a little more, but maybe they'll surprise me and find a way to truly keep MV alive (I don't believe Vision Pro is a long term way to to do that).

Focusing just on the Monster's Inc area, I actually like it personally. The second show attraction could be fun, no doubt music based from the look of the art work. So it takes away a top criticism of mine -the height requirement.

One thing to note, they might be able to keep MV:3D open for a bit, while constructing the door coaster. Most of the work on the theater will be pretty minor, so it could be a Dinoland-like situation.

 

[Chi84]

No one will punish Disney. No one will hurt their bottom line. Fans will keep making excuses.

A lot of people love Disney - no excuses needed.

 

[Casper Gutman]

I am have always been of the opinion that Disney and Universal should stick to what they excel at.

Universal is at its best with themed thrills and picking up the guests Disney misses.

Disney should stick to being the family market and highly immersive dark rides.

The best traditional dark ride in the US since MGM opened is Off the Leash at Universal Hollywood (even if they did foul up the restraints).

 

[Casper Gutman]

A lot of people love Disney - no excuses needed.

Uncritically “loving” a brand regardless of their behavior is weird… and terrible for the brand.

 

[Gusey]

For Pete’s sake, Disney doesn’t NEED to get anything right!

Tiana should have FINALLY put this nonsense to bed… if the previous two decades hadn’t.

No one will punish Disney. No one will hurt their bottom line. Fans will keep making excuses.

I just wish fans had ANY sort of accumulated memory. We go through the same thing over and over and over. Everyone’s always shocked! And forgets a month later.

Maybe right was the wrong word because it's all subjective and some people genuinely prefer Tiana's to Splash. I just feel like this Monsters show needs to be good enough to justify closing Muppets instead of just keeping Muppets and PizzeRizzo on Grand Avenue and making Monsters from Mama Melrose and the expansion pad. Of all three new shows:

• Villains is replacing a single animatronic 10-minute Car show
• Little Mermaid is an update to a show that has been closed since
• Monsters Show is replacing the last truly immersive 4D show at a Disney Park combining 3D with animatronics and a live actor and the whole theater changing throughout the show

 

[Chi84]

Uncritically “loving” a brand regardless of their behavior is weird… and terrible for the brand.

How about enjoying Disney the way it is now?

 

[Jrb1979]

The best traditional dark ride in the US since MGM opened is Off the Leash at Universal Hollywood (even if they did foul up the restraints).

Agreed but for some reason neither Universal or Disney seems interested in making those type of attractions much anymore. I also think your average guest isn't interested in them anymore either. If you look, most new attractions are either coasters or have some physical thrill to them. Even Remy has some thrill to it.

 

[UNCgolf]

Folks like to bring up Uni, and yes, they are much too overly reliant on thrill rides. But Uni was built with the idea that they would emphasize thrills and pick up the guests Disney missed. Now that they are competing directly with Disney they need to pivot off that philosophy and they’ve been slow to do so. Disney, however, has pivoted… to Universal’s ride philosophy. This is despite the fact that they became industry leader with a philosophy of accessibility.

I don't think Uni was built with that idea -- they didn't really have any major thrill rides (no coasters at all) until Islands of Adventure opened. I'd agree they were generally targeted towards an older age group, but I think they could still be experienced by almost anyone regardless of age.

If anything, I'd say the original USF lineup was an attempt to surpass Disney with storytelling/physical effects driven attractions like Jaws, E.T., and Kongfrontation.

They definitely pivoted to that later, though, and started building a bunch of coasters and simulators.

 

[Homemade Imagineering]

Second best alternative to simply leaving MV3D alone, is the 1:1 re-location to Sunset Showcase w the new RNRC, and Monsters/Stitch are both gutted and replaced with some sort of darkride (Wall-E or smth along those lines could work well)

 

[celluloid]

Agreed but for some reason neither Universal or Disney seems interested in making those type of attractions much anymore. I also think your average guest isn't interested in them anymore either. If you look, most new attractions are either coasters or have some physical thrill to them. Even Remy has some thrill to it.

There is certainly an audience taste thst comes into play.

But one expects Disney's park to have more variety and low requirement to no requirement option than Universal's.
Appeal and quality aside, Universal Studios currently has more to do for rides and shows for the 34 inch and non coaster fan crowd.
And the new Wicked store shows they are not abandoning the tribute to behind the scenes and movie making.

 

[SpectreJordan]

Time to Read the Len Tea leaves...

• There is another shoe to drop
• Not Indy, ToT or Animation courtyard
• Something that isn't generating LL sales...

I only see a few attractions left:

• Beauty and the Beast
• Fantasmic
• Frozen
• Star Tours
• Vacation Fun

Of these, BATB is on a huge plot of land, Frozen and Vacation Fun share a building, and Star Tours would be easy to re-theme... Although aren't we supposed to get an Asoka update soon?

My money is on BATB.

Don't they sell dining packages for Fantasmic? I can see that making as much money as LLs for some rides; I imagine Fantasmic will be safe for a long time.

 

[Mr. Sullivan]

So we get an attraction, and lose an attraction.



A complete disgrace.

We’re technically still gaining an attraction if I’m mapping this out correctly. RnRC stays but with a retheme. MuppetVision theater stays with a different show. Add in the Villains show and that means the attraction count at HS is the same as it is now. But then we have the door coaster being added which gives the park a +1.

 

[SpectreJordan]

I don't think Disney intends to relocate MV3D, by preserve I would presume they meant it's going to Disney+. If they were going to relocate it, I don't see why they wouldn't have just said that.

Maybe there's active discussions about it? I could see the RnRC redo being something they've decided on post-D23 after they realized people really want the Muppets to stay. So perhaps they're still deciding on MV's fate too.

 

[mattpeto]

Muppets is getting evicted because Disney doesn’t want to pay to run it (and because every ride needs a land, but mostly the money thing).

Monsters Inc does have one musical number. One. Perhaps they’ll pay to write all new songs for a puppet intensive show, but I’m skeptical - especially since they just chopped up Nemo.

I also don’t think they’ll do a major show based on an intentionally terrible musical that appeared as a credits gag.

.

So they are getting rid of Muppets to save money now?

What else can you come up?

 

[Casper Gutman]

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So they are getting rid of Muppets to save money now?

What else can you come up?

You understand that attractions cost money to staff and maintain, right?

Did you start following Disney last week?

Tell me about phase 2s. Tell me about the Epcot expansion and the pandemic. Tell me about the MGM overhaul.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Second best alternative to simply leaving MV3D alone, is the 1:1 re-location to Sunset Showcase w the new RNRC, and Monsters/Stitch are both gutted and replaced with some sort of darkride (Wall-E or smth along those lines could work well)

Sunset Showcase is too small for a 1:1 relocation.

We’re technically still gaining an attraction if I’m mapping this out correctly. RnRC stays but with a retheme. MuppetVision theater stays with a different show. Add in the Villains show and that means the attraction count at HS is the same as it is now. But then we have the door coaster being added which gives the park a +1.

For the same money they could be up at least +2. They’ve sunk billions into the park with no meaningful net gain and a ceiling to visitation.

 

[Mr. Sullivan]

For Pete’s sake, Disney doesn’t NEED to get anything right!

Tiana should have FINALLY put this nonsense to bed… if the previous two decades hadn’t.

No one will punish Disney. No one will hurt their bottom line. Fans will keep making excuses.

I just wish fans had ANY sort of accumulated memory. We go through the same thing over and over and over. Everyone’s always shocked! And forgets a month later.

I don’t think anyone forgets, I just think most people don’t take these things that personally and approach any replacement attraction as a new thing to be taken on it’s own.

While I understand that these parks have a lot of personal memories attached, there is a pocket of the fandom who seem to hold a grudge and get mad when others don’t. A lot of us have figured out that we can and will be sad about some things but that we ultimately have to move on because it’s out of our control.

We are not the villain here because we don’t want to hold a grudge against a theme park for taking an attraction out. In most cases, we feel just as sad as anyone else, but we choose not to hold onto that forever and ever and let it become some snowballing thing that turns us negative against anything and everything to do with the parks.

Things change, they come and they go, and part of being interested in an industry like this is learning to make peace with it. Some of us have made that peace, and some haven’t, but it’s not fair for those who haven’t to lay their frustrations at the feet of those of us who have. It isn’t our job to punish Disney and it isn’t our fault they make the decisions they do. Nothing we do is going to change how Disney operates.

 

[GoofGoof]

Why do we believe a stage show is coming? When was the last time Disney opened a major show designed for a dedicated theater? Have they done one since Nemo, which they recently chopped up because they don’t want guests in theaters?

Monsters isn’t a musical. It’s also an IP without adult human characters. Instead, the cast is full of creatures with inhuman body dimensions. Unless you’re just going to use the existing Mike and Sully outfits, which would be awful, you’re probably going to be relying on screens. That would mean something like Muppets, a type of attraction Disney clearly sees as dead and undesirable, or something like MILF, which doesn’t fit in that theater space at all.

Disney stuck that line in the release because, outside of the coaster, this is a fairly cheap overlay and they don’t want to remove or significantly alter the theater structure but having an empty venue of that size (especially after killing Muppets) looks bad.

What are they replacing the Tough to Be a Bug movie with at AK? It was announced to be a Zootopia 3D show. Is that also not going to open? Another fake announcement? I guess we will find out next year

 

[EagleScout610]

My only hope is that for the final showing of MuppetVision they bring Frank Oz out to perform the true, three hour, glorious version of A Salute to all Nations, but Mostly America and then actually destroy the theater afterwards