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News Disney Lakeshore Lodge (Project 89 - Development near Fort Wilderness)

ToTBellHop

ToTBellHop

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nickys said:
For OKW you’re correct. Although no one knows how many points there will be expiring in 2042. But since there will be just 15 years to go they could do a fire sale.

For the other resorts they’d be either rebuilding or doing a full refurb. They’ll just shutter the resorts until they’re ready.
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They’ll close BRV, BWV, and BCV at the exact same time? That’ll be a mess.
 
nickys

nickys

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ToTBellHop said:
They’ll close BRV, BWV, and BCV at the exact same time? That’ll be a mess.
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They will not be part of DVC at that point. None of those points will be in the system. What difference will it make?

Perhaps they just book the rooms through Disney? But they’ll be in need of a refurb anyway.
 
nickys

nickys

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ToTBellHop said:
I’m more picturing the visual of BWV and BCV being closed at the same time.
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The resorts effectively cease to exist at that point. It might be weird especially BWV since it’s the same building.

But realistically WDW can’t absorb all those rooms back into the regular Disney Deluxe accommodation.

And as the term runs down DVC can’t use maintenance fees to build enough capital reserves for a refurb after the contracts end.

If they stick to their 7 year rotation of refurbs then those resorts should be just about due a refurb. So they should be able to schedule all 3 within a couple of years.

Whether that’s DVC with a view to relaunch them as new resorts, or WDW - who knows?
 
BrianLo

BrianLo

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ToTBellHop said:
They’ll close BRV, BWV, and BCV at the exact same time? That’ll be a mess.
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We’re in the realm of massive, massive speculation here. But the bugaboo is Boulder and Beach will be flipped and Boardwalk rebuilt.

Though Boulder is off on its own so doesn’t really matter per say if they also slow roll that one.

Old Key West I’m sure they’ll fire sale the residual 15 year contracts. It might even be the only one for sale for 6-10 months or so as they refurb the one and two that will follow immediately. Likely will have a couple million points there that need to be turned around quickly.


Honestly, the far more problematic time they have is Saratoga in 2054 followed by Animal Kingdom and OKW in 2057. Speculatively one or two of those resorts will cease to be. Almost assuredly Old Key West.
 
Indy_UK

Indy_UK

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Surely the likes of OKW and Kidani will just get a large updates and then fresh 50 year contracts sold.

It's Hilton Head island and Vero Beach (one of my home resorts :confused: ) That I think will get demolished and the land sold on. I can't see Disney wanting to re-invest in those.
 
mattpeto

mattpeto

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I sort of expect Disney to counter with something somewhat risk adverse for the 2042 situation.

Think short term extensions on some properties would be my guess.
 
nickys

nickys

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mattpeto said:
I sort of expect Disney to counter with something somewhat risk adverse for the 2042 situation.

Think short term extensions on some properties would be my guess.
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I doubt they’ll ever try offering extensions to contracts again. OKW was a disaster and it’ll be interesting to see how they handle the “outliers” and how many there turns out to be.
 
mattpeto

mattpeto

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nickys said:
I doubt they’ll ever try offering extensions to contracts again. OKW was a disaster and it’ll be interesting to see how they handle the “outliers” and how many there turns out to be.
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Oh yeah but they have too many timeshares ending in 2042.

They cannot “do nothing” with the inventory and bulldoze or even refurbish starting in 2042.
 
Starship824

Starship824

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jmuboy

jmuboy

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Indy_UK said:
Surely the likes of OKW and Kidani will just get a large updates and then fresh 50 year contracts sold.

It's Hilton Head island and Vero Beach (one of my home resorts :confused: ) That I think will get demolished and the land sold on. I can't see Disney wanting to re-invest in those.
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Agreed on this. Those two "beach resorts" will be sold off for the property value and Disney will not keep those operating as Disney locations.
 
Disstevefan1

Disstevefan1

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Disney loves to build DVC’s and if non DVC owners want to drop in they are welcome to pay the insane nightly rates. It’s a win win for Disney.

See, Iger was telling the truth as this is part of the 60B “expansion” of the parks 😉
 
Bocabear

Bocabear

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But remember when the DVC Grand Floridian structure was already topped out and they were still not confirming it was a DVC building...our DVC Guy said he could not even acknowledge at the time they were building anything when there it was...bigger than life...lol I think they were still trying to sell out Saratoga Springs....
 
nickys

nickys

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Bocabear said:
But remember when the DVC Grand Floridian structure was already topped out and they were still not confirming it was a DVC building...our DVC Guy said he could not even acknowledge at the time they were building anything when there it was...bigger than life...lol I think they were still trying to sell out Saratoga Springs....
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I think that was Bay Lake Tower. But yes! “No, there’s nothing to see here”.

I doubt they’ll announce this until Poly sales are well underway. Maybe Easter / Summer next year.
 

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