Sirwalterraleigh
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I thick we were talking about 2024? I may have screwed that up…
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News Disney Lakeshore Lodge (Project 89 - Development near Fort Wilderness)
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BrianLo
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If you are actually interested. They’ve sold 1 million points in the first seven months so far this year. If nothing changes with the 7-mo average pace (despite it ramping up with recent incentives) they will sell 1.77 million points this year. Which is middle of the road for the prior 2 decades.
Of course, something is also changing, because there is an imminent new product launch coming off the back of likely a fairly strong August.
Sirwalterraleigh
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That’s not good…moving further away from the Covid year when people are still spending like drunken sailors? Particularly on travel.
You’re just proving they smashed into their own paywall in mid 2023…which is exactly what all the data and reporting indicates
Don’t believe me…they keep admitting less than ideal in their parks business…and they’re not touting DDC much…mostly cruiseline.
Since when don’t they gloat about anything that can be spun as “positive”?
First time…I guess?
Bobs current plan with dvc seems to be “we can always sell this…let’s ramp up and build more!” To the investors. But he’s probably wrong (recurring theme) and the seas don’t have limitless fish.
We’ll watch and see how it unfolds? They have already prepped attendance bad for next year - out loud - cause they always know…
Does that mean thick timeshare sales? Maybe…possible.
Now Pete can not concern himself about more drive by pot shots…and we “move on”…like illuminations
nickys
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Guests at WDW. If you arrange to do a room tour you get a gift card.
I know they’re still doing them at Riviera, GFV2. But you can ask to look at a room at any DVC resort and they’ll try and accommodate.
A French Quarter tower is obviously what the people want /sThe meaning of Project S is $imple - Port Orlean$ and Dixie Landing$.
They could mock it up to look like Devils Tower
Bleed0range
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If it is indeed Reflections returning, do you guys think it will have a new theme or it will be the same basic thing they announced way back when?
SpaceMountain77
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This seems to be the $1,000,000 question.
Has the Walt Disney Company ever cancelled an announced project before, only to bring it back years later as initially proposed?
Bleed0range
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It seems like it’s most closely related to the Pop Century resort where half of it was put on hold. But that of course did come back with a different theme.
castlecake2.0
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Bleed0range
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You might not be that far off considering what they're trying to do to tie it in to Frontierland.
nickys
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So far at least theming in DVC rooms have been subtle. I hope that continues.
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Phicinfan
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I don’t believe they ever formally canceled it, only said it was delayed indefinitely
As of July 31, 2024, Riviera was 68% sold, assuming they managed another month of 100,000+ sales there in August as they did in July, they’re likely currently at 70% sold - still 2 years +/- from selling out. Which is why starting construction on another new WDW DVC resort in the near future makes sense.
I don’t think they have. In the past it seems to me they’ve been a bit more circumspect with their announcements.
The nearest example I can think of is POP’s ‘Legendary years’ section which morphed into AOA almost a decade later & thus wasn’t ’as initially proposed.’
I don’t know if it was announced, but POP was originally planned to include a second half called ‘Legendary years,’ they opened Pop’s Classic years section in 2003, but abandoned the ‘Legendary years’ half, leaving empty buildings visible https://themouselets.com/disneys-abandoned-hotel-the-history-of-art-of-animation-resort. In 2010 they finally circled back to those empty buildings & announced AOA which opened in 2012.
nickys
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Not sure if they’ve ever announced that a project is cancelled.
The nearest I can get is how they tore down Innoventions, only to rebuild it almost the same but not quite.
Sirwalterraleigh
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We probably can go ahead and stop believing anything they say at this point? This does not resemble old style Disney at all.
Trust only the shovels
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Sirwalterraleigh
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Oh all that happened. I know a guy that was at that groundbreaking ceremony…
They were out over their skis with pop. Didn’t need that at that time and the world events really crushed the market.
That was also the start of the rather quick 2-3 year downward spiral and exit of Eisner…
Who now that people see another example…ultimately did right and left. And he took a dinky studio with 3 gates and made it huge…
Mr clinger…has been looking for a “successor” longer than OJ looked for “the real killers”
Yes, the incentives matter the most. We can bemoan resale restrictions but the data's you're refencing supports that buyers will go where ownership cost is cheaper. The expectation before GF expanded was thst Riviera would be burried until GF quickly sold out, and that just did not happen.
But also on prices, people are not buying the Cabins when they quote FW and Riviera and AKL (or whatever legacy resort is promotes at the time) and see that the first payment / total cost is with dues.
I'm expecting Polynesian to be priced similarly to Villas at Disneyland Hotel in a higher tier, especially when sales reopen. If they want to push Poly sales then they'll offer a nicer incentive than Riviera.