Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Vegas Disney Fan]

I think it was mostly fine for the parks to have been open for all of 2021. But right now? Literally any public gathering is becoming a superspreading event.

I also don't think indoor dining, theaters, or concert venues should be open. We didn't have any of that in Spring 2020. I'm not saying it needs to be eradicated to reopen. But how anyone can genuinely believe we shouldn't consider a 14-21 day shutdown like in 2020 to just curb a little of this insane Omicron wave. It's criminal that Walt Disney World is open right now.

We have vaccines that are available to everyone over the age of 5, absolutely no reason to close anything anymore. I’d be okay with banning kids under 5 from all businesses (until they can be vaccinated) if that would make you feel better though.

The days of 2020-level shutdowns in most areas of the US are over and will likely not happen again in our lifetimes.

I could see CA and NY considering it but I don’t think it’ll ever happen again even there. NY is seeing record numbers and hasn’t even hinted at it and they asked Newsom about the super bowl the other day and he said it’s happening, he didn’t even pause or add a based on scenario, just a blanket it’s happening.

 

[SingleRider]

For this pandemic I agree. With a President saying any lockdowns are off the table I don't see how they could ever go back to requiring them. It was a huge blow to business and a ton of fake money was pumped into the economy to get through them we can now know it was necessary but very damaging. We won't go back unless something on such a scale happens so quickly again.

Even if it happened during a future pandemic, I doubt it would be in as many places as it was before. Everyone is going to remember the devastating effect it had on businesses and the economy as a whole.

 

[SingleRider]

I could see CA and NY considering it but I don’t think it’ll ever happen again even there. They asked Newsom about the super bowl the other day and he said it’s happening, he didn’t even pause or add a based on scenario, just a blanket it’s happening.

Yep - those were the areas I was thinking of. But even most people in CA and NY are over the shutdowns.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

Even if it happened during a future pandemic, I doubt it would be in as many places as it was before. Everyone is going to remember the devastating effect it had on businesses and the economy as a whole.

Not to mention it’s debatable how much it accomplished. I still don’t blame anyone for doing it, it was a scary time and the virus was 100% unknown, but at most I think it pushed the waves back a couple months and bought some time to study it, numbers were far worse last winter (pre vaccine) and we still didnt see anything close to the worst case scenarios originally predicted.

 

[disneygeek90]

I think it was mostly fine for the parks to have been open for all of 2021. But right now? Literally any public gathering is becoming a superspreading event.

I also don't think indoor dining, theaters, or concert venues should be open. We didn't have any of that in Spring 2020. I'm not saying it needs to be eradicated to reopen. But how anyone can genuinely believe we shouldn't consider a 14-21 day shutdown like in 2020 to just curb a little of this insane Omicron wave. It's criminal that Walt Disney World is open right now.

I think it would be a lot different if there weren’t safe and effective vaccines.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Yep - those were the areas I was thinking of. But even most people in CA and NY are over the shutdowns.

Many people that I talked to in NYC believe the vaccine mandates are hurting tourism in nyc. It’s kind of silly that major cities like Atlanta are open as usual and in NYC you have to show a piece of paper to eat in a restaurant or go to a theatre.

 

[JoeCamel]

Even if it happened during a future pandemic, I doubt it would be in as many places as it was before. Everyone is going to remember the devastating effect it had on businesses and the economy as a whole.

I don't know, we forgot a bunch of the lessons learned in 1918 and subsequent infections.

 

[Touchdown]

Well to jump on some more good news, IHME is now predicting that today (Jan 8th) is the peak of new cases for this wave. We will see if this is true this week, because reported new cases will start to fall sometime this week (a delay in people getting tests, and a delay in tests being run.)

IHME | COVID-19 Projections

Explore forecasts of COVID-19 cases, deaths, and hospital resource use.

covid19.healthdata.org

 

[Bullseye1967]

Well to jump on some more good news, IHME is now predicting that today (Jan 8th) is the peak of new cases for this wave. We will see if this is true this week, because reported new cases will start to fall sometime this week (a delay in people getting tests, and a delay in tests being run.)

IHME | COVID-19 Projections

Explore forecasts of COVID-19 cases, deaths, and hospital resource use.

covid19.healthdata.org

I would guess for most parts of the country they are at least a week off. For the West several weeks.

 

[JoeCamel]

Well to jump on some more good news, IHME is now predicting that today (Jan 8th) is the peak of new cases for this wave. We will see if this is true this week, because reported new cases will start to fall sometime this week (a delay in people getting tests, and a delay in tests being run.)

IHME | COVID-19 Projections

Explore forecasts of COVID-19 cases, deaths, and hospital resource use.

covid19.healthdata.org

Yea, just six more weeks until daily deaths peak

 

[disneygeek90]

Yea, just six more weeks until daily deaths peak

Just. Oof.

 

[fgmnt]

Many people that I talked to in NYC believe the vaccine mandates are hurting tourism in nyc. It’s kind of silly that major cities like Atlanta are open as usual and in NYC you have to show a piece of paper to eat in a restaurant or go to a theatre.

NYC citizens famously love tourists to their city.

 

[JoeCamel]

Just. Oof.

That is what it says....

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

Yea, just six more weeks until daily deaths peak

Where did you see that? Unless I’m misreading it the charts linked show Jan 29 for the deaths peak, it also shows the peak will thankfully be about 40% lower than the Delta peak was.

 

[JoeCamel]

Where did you see that? Unless I’m misreading it the charts linked show Jan 29 for the deaths peak, it also shows the peak will thankfully be about 40% lower than the Delta peak was.

Late Feb is what I see if you scroll to the bottom, it looks like margarita day
Not sure what you are looking at, seems about the same as Delta

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

NYC citizens famously love tourists to their city.

They do when their paycheck depends on it!

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

Late Feb is what I see if you scroll to the bottom, it looks like margarita day
Not sure what you are looking at, seems about the same as Delta

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I still don’t see it, the current projection line (purple) peaks on Jan 24th at 1926 deaths, the high severity line (red) Peaks on Jan 28th at 2080 deaths, by mid February it shows we’ll be well below those peaks. 885 (purple) and 1400 (red) on Feb 14th and 588 (purple) and 1024 (red) on Feb 21.

Correct on Delta peak, I was looking at winter 2020 peak.

 

[Lilofan]

What does a persons weight tell you without any other information?

Disney would have the last word on weight issues regarding a guest interested in the optional Wild Africa Trek excursion at DAK. Each has to fall under the 300 lb weight limit. One part of the trek is guests walking across the suspended bridge.

 

[drizgirl]

Anyone else still think the theme parks have absolutely no business being open right now? Anyone? Bueller?

Shocked to hear you say that……

 

[Lilofan]

Anyone else still think the theme parks have absolutely no business being open right now? Anyone? Bueller?

Hong Kong Disneyland is closing for approx two weeks but then again it was not even a 7 day operational park. The theme park was closed every Tuesday and Thursday for cleaning before the decision to temporarily close the park. The HKDL resorts remain open with limited services.