News Star Wars Galactic Starcruiser coming to Walt Disney World 2021

Cesar R M

Cesar R M

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techgeek said:
90% occupancy might be good for a hotel, but for a cruise line it’s a financial disaster. Prior to the pandemic, it was routine and expected for cruises to be at +100% occupancy.
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Yup, but cruise lines do not shy to undersell the rooms because they know they can recuperate the costs by selling upcharges, additional food, entertainment and shore excursions.
 
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techgeek

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Cesar R M said:
The irony is that they could have used the first.. by claiming you're going inside either a Imperial training ship (in which a famous Jedi will invade and overtake later on). The "prison" spartan rooms fit this theme (and not of a luxury cruise ship)
You end being "rescued" and you join the rebels.

OR...

Imagine a smuggler "high luxury" ship like Lando's before Han ruined it... but bigger... something you'd see filled with casino stuff... which was invaded by imperials.. and the rebels come to the rescue.
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The real irony is that all they really needed to do was spend far less money and reskin Pop Century to Star Wars… have some buildings be rebel themed, some be imperial / first order. Dress rooms accordingly. Endor and Hoth pool areas. Swap out the oversized props for AT-AT’s and Tie fighters. Done. Instant hit and they could charge more then AoA and keep the place booked solid.
 
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Incomudro

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Cesar R M said:
The irony is that they could have used the first.. by claiming you're going inside either a Imperial training ship (in which a famous Jedi will invade and overtake later on). The "prison" spartan rooms fit this theme (and not of a luxury cruise ship)
You end being "rescued" and you join the rebels.

OR...

Imagine a smuggler "high luxury" ship like Lando's before Han ruined it... but bigger... something you'd see filled with casino stuff... which was invaded by imperials.. and the rebels come to the rescue.
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Well, it's essentially the second one - which is why I puzzle when people say this doesn't fit the Star Wars aesthetic.
The problem as I see it that from what they've shown - they've under budgeted the higher end look of the place.
It's a luxury experience (to some degree) that is going to get attacked and boarded by the First Order.
 
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Cesar R M

Cesar R M

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Incomudro said:
Well, it's essentially the second one - which is why I puzzle when puzzle when people say this doesn't fit the Star Wars aesthetic.
The problem as I see it that from what they've shown - they've under budgeted the higher end look of the place.
It's a luxury experience (to some degree) that is going to get attacked and boarded by the First Order.
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yeah.. the problem still persists.. doesnt look anything premium or that spacelike..
 
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GimpYancIent

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To be frank from the Disney point of view this project represents a "premium" experience since a very high rate of return is expected from a minimal investment. From the view that has been presented of the facilities and projected activities it is a far reach to use the word "Luxurious" in any reference to this project. The presented accommodations in no way shape or form even close to Disney's own definition of "Deluxe" which is over inflated. The presentation and marketing have failed now the role-playing CM's have to be convincing A list performers to achieve any form of success for this project.
 
UNCgolf

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MisterPenguin said:
At 90% capacity, Disney's going to have to cope with only a quarter million dollars a day revenue. Devastating.
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If they could keep it at 90% capacity for years and years, sure. Not being able to get it past 90% capacity in the first few months of opening probably would be devastating considering what it is, especially since that would indicate they're unlikely to be able to keep it at or above 90% long-term. Some of that will depend on early reviews, though -- if people love it and that leads to more bookings going forward, it's not going to matter too much if it wasn't sold out when it first opened.

It's the kind of thing that could hurt their stock price because investors would see it as a massive failure. Overall revenue is mostly irrelevant if it's short of projections.

I wonder what the daily operational costs are. They have to be very high if this is going to be the kind of experience they're promising.
 
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WDW Pro

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UNCgolf said:
If they could keep it at 90% capacity for years and years, sure. Not being able to get it past 90% capacity in the first few months of opening probably would be devastating considering what it is, especially since that would indicate they're unlikely to be able to keep it at or above 90% long-term. Some of that will depend on early reviews, though -- if people love it and that leads to more bookings going forward, it's not going to matter too much if it wasn't sold out when it first opened.

It's the kind of thing that could hurt their stock price because investors would see it as a massive failure. Overall revenue is mostly irrelevant if it's short of projections.

I wonder what the daily operational costs are. They have to be very high if this is going to be the kind of experience they're promising.
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Availability is a public-visible black eye. It damages the Star Wars brand and causes investors to start asking more questions. The hotel is going to have script changes very quickly if they regularly can't hit 100%.
 
EPCOT-O.G.

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JoeCamel said:
What you can't know is how many cabins are available on which dates. If they have 10 available they are running 90% occupancy which in hotel world is very good. Yeah it hasn't sold out to hordes of rabid pew pew fans but we have no idea if it is sold enough.
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While actual numbers may be an enigma, nothing about this suggests anywhere near close to 90% occupancy. I don't see how you can look at the trendlines of reservations, and the wide open availability, and think this is coming anywhere near being "sold enough"

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Surely it's just one vacancy a night!
 
zapple

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Keep in mind that they chose to prioritize this project over ALL the other projects that they delayed/cancelled due to covid. They cut back on projects in the parks that would benefit far more guests so that they could stay on track with their stupid overpriced faux-luxury hotel/land-cruise ship/space-prison and they can’t even fill it for the first 3 months it’s open. The Schadenfreude is exquisite.

But hey, we still get the Journey of Water, whatever the heck that is.

P.S. Does this hunk of junk even have mousekeeping?
 
UNCgolf

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MisterPenguin said:
Of course not. It's like Antarctica. You have to take everything with you when you leave. All your garbage and even your bodily waste.
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That's why we haven't seen photos or concept art of bathrooms in the cabins -- there aren't any. Ideally you'd hold it until you're on Batuu and can use a bathroom there, but if not, they will have waste bags available.
 
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