I know your intent is to engender sympathy but what you’re describing is increasingly the experience for most of us average, non-DAS guests on most days at WDW.
It’s like setting up a RS.
The DAS return time you are given is whatever the posted standby wait time is at that time, minus 10 minutes. That 10 minutes is supposed to make up for your wait in the LL. This is how it has always been. But to note, we all know that the standby wait times are often bloated. So DAS users actually wait longer to get on rides than those waiting in line.
Nah, that would mean that the majority of guests in the park have DAS, and that is simply not true. Your math is wrong.
No, it’s not. 8 percent of people in the Parks are using 40 to 71 percent of the ride capacity. That’s why the system is broken.
You might be low on that…actually
Yeah, I’m sure I am. All those figures were based on estimates on the conservative side.
It’s been an interesting week (for me)
Except waiting until you get a certain spot to be able to leave the line is not really going to work for those with bathroom issues. It is not a choice, but a NEED to have to go and go very soon. When we got to go, we got to go and can not wait another 10 minutes to get to the spot that you can leave.
I don’t know what this story is all about, but I’m a DVC member also. I know what people talk about.
Yes, this explains it perfectly. Everyone is so hung up about how all of the DAS users are "taking up space", well no crap. They are in the park also, no different than anyone else. DAS people waited for the ride, just like everyone else. They are not stealing anyone's space. It is getting annoying, the people that are acting as if those who use DAS are getting some kind of free ride. They paid their admission, they waited for their turn on the ride, and they shouldn't be treated like some kind of usurper. Frankly, some of these posts about those with disabilities are disgusting. Every single person would love to not have their medical issues.
I feel like ppl aren't able to see the relationship the 8% having a pass has to the ride capacity because 8% sounds small(and it is, in a way, but that 8% doesn't account for anything but the single DAS user, not their party with them. Which was up to 6 and sometimrs even more ppl in practice)
And if people have a hard time believing it, they can work at it from the other way.
Great breakdown. Poor Peter Pan and Navi River Journey. Those rides probably shouldn't even have a LL.
How does that even make sense to you? You all are acting as if DAS people poof into existence in the LL. They would have been in the standby line anyway, adding to the capacity. So what you are really complaining about is that Disney lets too many people into the parks.
Of course it makes sense. How many attractions per day do you think the average non-DAS user is actually doing on a given day when lines are an hour plus and Genie+ gets you 1-3 attractions if you’re using it normally? The dirty secret here is that the 8 percent of DAS users are absolutely using the lion’s share of the park capacity, which is why Disney needed to take action. I understand that individually each DAS user sees each non-DAS user as a “jerk” because all they’re doing is “adding a few minutes to the line,” but in the aggregate, they are taking up a ton of capacity because they can ride far more rides than the average guest can, even with Genie+.
At least Peter Pan has the excuse of having been built in 1971. But Navi, Frozen, RoTR, FOP... these are 21st century attractions, which some Industrial Engineer, should have shot up a hand, and said, "This capacity is grossly insufficient for the attendance targets we want to hit by promoting the heck out them." Of course, if the rumors are true, that Disney ignored the advice about adding the third TSMM track and Soarin theater BEFORE going to FP+ than none of this is a surprise.
Great Adventure gives a discount for bringing an empty Coke can. Soon WDW will give a discount for bringing your own cork.
