A Spirited Dirty Dozen ...

[Epicpilot]

Well, my ship (until the Disney Spirit sails), the Disney Wonder,

Is Disney Spirit the name of one of the new cruise ships being built for DCL? I haven't seen that name be mentioned before but that sounds like a likely name for one of the new ships.

 

[Ariel1986]

Ye be warned. Heading to an Epcot resort soon? Might want to be prepared to demand a move.


"Due to preparations for upcoming offerings at Disney’s Hollywood Studios, there may be noise impacts in the Epcot resort area during the late night hours June 5-9.

For Walt Disney World Swan & Dolphin Hotels, this message is only intended for informational purposes."

Strange it had those dates as they've already started this- I was woken up at the Beach Club at 2.30am(!) on Wednesday morning (1st) by a VERY loud score run through & repeated replays of many few-seconds-at-a-time segments, of what I assume is the new Star Wars show soundtrack. It went on for at least an hour, I couldn't believe how loud it was! Being half asleep and not knowing straight away what it was I thought I was going mad! And there was no prior warning to my knowledge...

 

[ford91exploder]

Very troubled if this is any indication.
http://makingstarwars.net/2016/06/how-extensive-will-the-rogue-one-reshoots-be/


Additionally, a user on Reddit claiming to be a crewmember upset about the retooling has elaborated that much of the reshoots are the result of Disney feeling like the film is too dark and scary for kids and that much of the reshoots are focused around toning down certain action sequences

Spoiler

such as a "Storming the Beaches of Normandy in Saving Private Ryan" style Rebels vs Empire ground battle and a sequence where Darth Vader picks off a group of rebels one by one like an 80s slasher flick.

Translation StarWars now needs to be non threatening to a fearful toddler instead of being a action and adventure franchise it's now all about selling toys to the under 8 set. Geez and I thought Disney would have taken at least till 2020 to perform a value suck out of the Star Wars Franchise....

 

[the.dreamfinder]

FWIW from the screenwriter of Rouge One

Attn: bloggers. I'm reading some horse rumors tonight. You know where to find me. Do your jobs.
https://twitter.com/chrismcquarrie/status/738536269928669184

 

[ThemeParkJunkee]

Translation StarWars now needs to be non threatening to a fearful toddler instead of being a action and adventure franchise it's now all about selling toys to the under 8 set. Geez and I thought Disney would have taken at least till 2020 to perform a value suck out of the Star Wars Franchise....

kind of liking but not ready to like but sort of "like"

 

[theRIOT]

Also these 'live action' remakes may poison the well for future management teams, Iger has not heard of leaving gas in the tank for his successor.

I just wonder how long will we have to wait for this to come full circle?
You know ...
when Disney announces an all-new animated feature based on the live-action remake of a beloved classic Disney animated feature.
See it soon before it goes back in the Disney Vault!

 

[BrianLo]

Hey, @BrianLo ... you might want to get in touch with these dudes ... and anyone else planning on being in Shanghai soon ... @WDWFigment? Going for the opening?

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/shanghai-717923-disneyland-going.html

Thanks - although I'm Canadian.

I'd love to share some insight like 'hmm, where'd that 800 million dollars go?'

 

[Sped2424]

So ... Rogue One ... may be the one that isn't all that. Interesting. I rather enjoyed the trailer and sorta like the idea of a story in the SW UNIverse that isn't the same main storyline. But one month of reshoots tells you that it is plenty troubled ... or that Iger thinks it is.

And you gotta love the glee fanbois are taking in Alice's poor showing ... it's almost like they know it's OK to dislike this one, that this doesn't matter as much to Iger and the Co as ... Civil War or Zootopia ... or certainly Rogue One. I haven't seen it yet, but friends who have all enjoyed it. But they, like I, are fans of Depp and Burton and Co ...

But the Alice situation is interesting as the film's box office more less states people didn't dig that sequel as much as the billion dollar first film suggested to Disney that they would. So where does that leave that new Alice Maze in Shanghai given it just opened yet the franchise it's based off has just died in a really major way? Also does this kill the Alice expansion that was planned for Shanghai? And is Tokyo going to go with an Eticket based off the animated film now rather than copying the live action one that was headed to Shanghai? Even more interesting if Alice's sequel proves that a billion dollar film can have a floptastic sequel how is James Cameron and the linked Avatarland feeling right about now? That last one was a tease as I know Avatarland shall be great regardless of IP but even so is Iger and the BOD worried about stagnant merch or interest for that land? I would be.

 

[GiveMeTheMusic]

But the Alice situation is interesting as the film's box office more less states people didn't dig that sequel as much as the billion dollar first film suggested to Disney that they would. So where does that leave that new Alice Maze in Shanghai given it just opened yet the franchise it's based off has just died in a really major way? Also does this kill the Alice expansion that was planned for Shanghai? And is Tokyo going to go with an Eticket based off the animated film now rather than copying the live action one that was headed to Shanghai? Even more interesting if Alice's sequel proves that a billion dollar film can have a floptastic sequel how is James Cameron and the linked Avatarland feeling right about now? That last one was a tease as I know Avatarland shall be great regardless of IP but even so is Iger and the BOD worried about stagnant merch or interest for that land? I would be.

China's grosses for Alice were healthy, so there's no reason Disney shouldn't move ahead with their new ride.

The issue, I think, with Alice in the US is that no one asked for a sequel. Sure the first movie made a bunch of money, but years later, there was no public outcry for more. The new film is perfectly enjoyable, but to capture an audience it needed to be flat out amazing.

 

[Sped2424]

China's grosses for Alice were healthy, so there's no reason Disney shouldn't move ahead with their new ride.

The issue, I think, with Alice in the US is that no one asked for a sequel. Sure the first movie made a bunch of money, but years later, there was no public outcry for more. The new film is perfectly enjoyable, but to capture an audience it needed to be flat out amazing.

26 million opening weekend is not healthy for China and it's likely going to take a nosedive whenever apocalypse comes out this weekend over there. At the end of it's run Alice isn't being projected to reach the top 10 films of 2016 in China. I don't think this film is doing anything stellar there to warrant further investment for it in Shanghai.

 

[Nmoody1]

You might want to share your views, as a Disney nut, with the OC Register when you are there. ... I didn't see the video in question as I am staying away from all videos except flyovers of the park that show partially completed lands that no one is talking about or reporting on!

I've tried to steer clear of attraction videos, this was just of a group of people in what I assume was an outdoor line pushing people and shouting when Soaring went down and they were offering what I guess was return tickets for later or another attraction. It was chaos!

I'll try to do some digging around... it reminds me of the toilets of terror from DSP which sat there for years before the ride opened... due to the lack of attractions vs. The people expected to visit, (and the fact that it's a done deal) we won't be waiting that long... its a poor attempt for a Magic Kingdom park though... and I am surprised that both HK and Shanghai are letting it happen. I know HK'S rumoured exclusivity is almost up, but I'm surprised Shanghai is taking clones - especially from the park down the road.

As the OC register are looking for Americans, count me out being British.... I can tell them why there is no Haunted Mansion though!

 

[PhotoDave219]

FWIW from the screenwriter of Rouge One

Well, people just repeat what they see other people reporting..... God forbid they do any work of their own....

 

[BrerJon]

Thanks - although I'm Canadian.

I'd love to share some insight like 'hmm, where'd that 800 million dollars go?'

 

[RSoxNo1]

So ... Rogue One ... may be the one that isn't all that. Interesting. I rather enjoyed the trailer and sorta like the idea of a story in the SW UNIverse that isn't the same main storyline. But one month of reshoots tells you that it is plenty troubled ... or that Iger thinks it is.

And you gotta love the glee fanbois are taking in Alice's poor showing ... it's almost like they know it's OK to dislike this one, that this doesn't matter as much to Iger and the Co as ... Civil War or Zootopia ... or certainly Rogue One. I haven't seen it yet, but friends who have all enjoyed it. But they, like I, are fans of Depp and Burton and Co ...

I rarely cheer for a movie to fail, but I'm so sick of Tim Burton's crap fests that I'm not exactly sad this isn't doing well. Now hopefully some of the live action remakes don't do well and we can put an end to that nonsense. Is it too much to ask for an original concept?

 

[BrerJon]

Is it too much to ask for an original concept?

Disney would argue that they tried that with Tomorrowland, which was a really good film but still flopped hard, so audiences sent a message saying they don't want anything original thank you very much.

 

[RSoxNo1]

Disney would argue that they tried that with Tomorrowland, which was a really good film but still flopped hard, so audiences sent a message saying they don't want anything original thank you very much.

No, Tomorrowland wasn't a good film. It was potentially a good concept for a film but what they wound up with was lousy.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

I rarely cheer for a movie to fail, but I'm so sick of Tim Burton's crap fests that I'm not exactly sad this isn't doing well.

Tim Burton did not direct the sequel. Beyond being one of the producers, he had nothing to do with Looking Glass.

 

[truecoat]

The flaked look is the design.

I must have been completely oblivious to the shirt I bought. I pulled out the shirt and it's the same. For all this time, I've been ed off about it flaking away.

 

[PhotoDave219]

Disney would argue that they tried that with Tomorrowland, which was a really good film but still flopped hard, so audiences sent a message saying they don't want anything original thank you very much.

Tomorrowland was a great concept with a poopy script.

 

[gmajew]

Tomorrowland was a great concept with a poopy script.

With horrible trailers and promotions.