jt04
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You're insane.:lol:
Oh, I see, name calling instead of dialog. How interesting. :snore:
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Harry Potter is arriving sooner than expected. What does this mean for WDW?
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Oh, I see, name calling instead of dialog. How interesting. :snore:
jt04
Well-Known Member
It's just one piece of the puzzle.
SirGoofy
Member
I already disproved your idea of a "prefurb" as it pertained to Jungle Cruise yesterday.
And the closing of a huge E-ticket for 6 months is not a prefurb. This is Space's refurb. That's all tehre is to it, jt. Face it, they did this one on the cheap, theres no if's and's or but's about it.
I just pray they don't do the same thing to the Jungle plans, because it could be the best yet.
jt04
Well-Known Member
I remember Martin saying it was likely more elements will be added to SM later. Including making the track able to handle rv's with on board audio at some point. Also, I'm pretty confident TTA will be plussed sooner rather than later.
I missed your Jungle Cruise blurb that reproves it is being fixed in two stages. Link? :shrug:
_Scar
Active Member
Jungle Cruise massive refurb? I always thought the ride just relied on mostly jokes.... you mean after this wonderful JC refurb the ride would have great effects and great cheesy jokes? :lol:
headhoncho34
Member
I hope that Jungle Cruise gets the full refurb but in this economy its not easy to refurb any attraction all the way through. Thats probably why they decided to close SM for 6 months and give it a half way refurb instead of a full one. Who knows, when the economy gets back up to speed they might return to it and give it the other half.
SirGoofy
Member
I'll believe it when I see it.
You mentioned that preliminary stuff for the big refurb was done last time, which wasn't true. Last time was basically an emergency shutdown, due to the fact that the dock was literally rotting away at some points. Some of the figures were cleaned up as well, and the natives got a new hut, but no ground work was laid down for the big one, due to the fact that at that time the big one was frozen solid, almost to the point of cancellation.
Now, in the past few months, they've been switching the animated figures' controls over to fiber optics, possibly preparing for the shut down, but nothing was done during last years refurb.
SirGoofy
Member
According to many an insider on this board, that was decided a long, long time before the economy tanked.
jt04
Well-Known Member
Well there was someone who said there was stuff done. It was an employee who posts here sometimes. But I never said it wasn't mostly emergency work, there were projects done that are now off the "to do" list for the more comprehensive work. Therefore it still appears to me to be happening in two stages.
What is obvious to me is that there is a master plan for the MK but stuff had really gotten run down. So, while more comprehensive stuff is planned, some infrastructure problems could not wait. Hence, that has been the priority while the more visible stuff is accomplished in a delayed timeframe. There have been several examples of this and will continue to be between now and the 40th anniversary. That is what I meant and I think you realize that.
headhoncho34
Member
It makes me wonder because they weren't cheap with the HM refurb or Potc so why did they have to stall out on SM and makes its refurb half done.
SirGoofy
Member
Oh, my friend. They went very, very cheap on the POTC refurb. There was so much cut out of that it isn't even funny.
_Scar
Active Member
SirGoofy
Member
I mean, I hang out with all the engineers that worked on the project. I was told nothing was done other than simple cleaning and building of the dock.
I get what you're trying to say about your prefurb idea. But I don't agree. I think everything they're doing, they're mostly doing because they have to. Phil isn't into doling out money left and right.
SirGoofy
Member
The sound system was to be replaced, and wasn't. You're still hearing speakers from the 70s. Many, many mechanical issues were ignored, and the original plans called for an added, outdoor scene, that was cut because, "Guests will like it no matter what.":brick:
Lee
Adventurer
Slight correction...
They were cheap on the PotC refurb. Much was cut from the proposals, ranging from new show scenes to upgrades to the audio and lighting systems.
EDIT: Sir Goofy beat me to it. Take my post as a bit of confirmation.
_Scar
Active Member
Well, that sucks. :/ Now I feel like PotC can be so much more... any more details on where that outdoor scene would be?
SirGoofy
Member
Nope...
Lee told me about it.:lol:
jt04
Well-Known Member
As I've said, I really don't think Phil or any other TDO employee has the say they once did. I think the picture will be much clearer in a month.
Is it possible the folks in California (Iger, Lasseter, Glendale) were appalled at the condition of the MK's infrastructure?
My guess is they probably were. And in a big way. I'm not blaming TDO, rather Eisner's priorities. It's all getting turned around now but will take years.
That is how I see it anyway.
SirGoofy
Member
They were. I know they were. I just don't know how much they've done about it. I hope it's what you think it is, but if they were that appalled, I don't know why half of TDO, not to mention Mr. Jay, still gets a Disney paycheck.