WWOS to still get new bowling facility?

[wm49rs]

http://blog.touringplans.com/2011/08/19/wide-world-of-sports-getting-a-bowling-center/

Wide World of Sports getting a Bowling Center
by R. A. Pedersen

Disney filed paperwork with the water department today to expand the Wide World of Sports complex to add a large bowling center. You can view the paperwork here (PDF).

This project was thought to have been discarded when Disney announced the Splitsville bowling complex being added to Downtown Disney West Side. Apparently it is alive and well and coming in the near future. The big difference is that while the Splitsville complex would be a recreational bowling area, the one at the Wide World of Sports would have a starker competition and league setup.

(Sorry I couldn't link to the PDF, but I'm working off my phone.)

 

[NiarrNDisney]

Oh good the one planned for DTD Westside seems a little pretentious and expensive.

 

[jt04]

http://blog.touringplans.com/2011/08/19/wide-world-of-sports-getting-a-bowling-center/

Wide World of Sports getting a Bowling Center
by R. A. Pedersen

Disney filed paperwork with the water department today to expand the Wide World of Sports complex to add a large bowling center. You can view the paperwork here (PDF).

This project was thought to have been discarded when Disney announced the Splitsville bowling complex being added to Downtown Disney West Side. Apparently it is alive and well and coming in the near future. The big difference is that while the Splitsville complex would be a recreational bowling area, the one at the Wide World of Sports would have a starker competition and league setup.

(Sorry I couldn't link to the PDF, but I'm working off my phone.)

I don't think Disney ever said it was canceled but that became the accepted take on it by the "consensus".

I stuck with what we were actually told so this news seems quite believable to me. I would have been suprised if it did not get built.

 

[Captain Chaos]

I don't think Disney ever said it was canceled but that became the accepted take on it by the "consensus".

I stuck with what we were actually told so this news seems quite believable to me. I would have been suprised if it did not get built.

Maybe not cancelled but it has at least been delayed... until now it seems... Should be a boon to the resort with bowling tournaments...

 

[dreamscometrue]

They are 2 completely unrelated projects with very different purposes. The WWoS lanes will be mostly for competitions, etc., while the DD Splitsville is upscale public bowling, food and entertainment facility. The WWoS plan, which was never cancelled, has no effect on Splitsville.

 

[jt04]

They are 2 completely unrelated projects with very different purposes. The WWoS lanes will be mostly for competitions, etc., while the DD Splitsville is upscale public bowling, food and entertainment facility. The WWoS plan, which was never cancelled, has no effect on Splitsville.

I think it does in a way. It will give families a place to recreate at night when there are no tournaments. Especially since they can't use Splitsville at night.

I don't think it will be real fancy but I would guess they would add elements that can serve to draw locals and tourists.

 

[dreamscometrue]

I think it does in a way. It will give families a place to recreate at night when there are no tournaments. Especially since they can't use Splitsville at night.

I don't think it will be real fancy but I would guess they would add elements that can serve to draw locals and tourists.

That's true. We don't have anything around my place upscale like that, and I keep forgetting about no families at night. Yes, WWoS bowling will be a nice option for families if/when open to the park guests.

 

[Kamikaze]

Oh good the one planned for DTD Westside seems a little pretentious and expensive.

Uh, this is the pretenious one of the pack. Meaning its not for you. Or anyone. Except 'real' bowlers.

 

[JEANYLASER]

very interesting!

 

[Kamikaze]

I think it does in a way. It will give families a place to recreate at night when there are no tournaments. Especially since they can't use Splitsville at night.

I don't think it will be real fancy but I would guess they would add elements that can serve to draw locals and tourists.

Except the WWoS lanes aren't going to be open to the public.

 

[jt04]

Except the WWoS lanes aren't going to be open to the public.

I thought they announced they will be when not being used for competition. That only makes sense. It is supposed to have 100 lanes or something crazy like that.

 

[MissMorrow]

Uh, this is the pretenious one of the pack. Meaning its not for you. Or anyone. Except 'real' bowlers.

Are you saying that throwing the ball backwards disqualifies me as a "real" bowler? That takes some skill I tell you

 

[Obi]

several years ago there were plans for this facility to be built.

it was mainly to house the usbc national tournament. it's a huge tournament that goes on for several months. thousands of bowlers enter it every year.

it was supposed to be in a 3 year rotation with reno being in on that rotation and the third being whatever host city gave the best bid to host the tournament.

this tournament brings in millions of dollars....

something happened, that i do not know, that either cancelled the plans to do this or put it on the back burner because reno picked up the national tournament for several years. other than 2012, which will be in baton rouge, the rest are in reno.

now, if this new facility were to have 100 lanes installed it would not surprise me if they are going to try and have the national tournament there and, hopefully, go back into the 3 year rotation. i can tell you that many competitive bowlers would LOVE to have this happen as many of them are getting tired of going to reno every year, plus it'll give the people on the east coast a break from having to travel across the country every year...

yes, i'm a competitive bowler. yes, i've bowled in the national tournament. yes, i would LOVE to see it go to orlando... a lot of us have followed the news when it was first announced a few years back... however, none of us really knew what happened. just a bunch of rumors...

 

[Captain Chaos]

I thought they announced they will be when not being used for competition. That only makes sense. It is supposed to have 100 lanes or something crazy like that.

here is a copy of the rpess release from 2008, no mention of the public being allowed to use the lanes when there are no competitions going on...

USBC Open/Women's Championships to call Disney World property home

6/9/2008
USBC Open Championships

The United States Bowling Congress announced today it will hold 13 events - seven Open Championships and six Women's Championships - from 2011 through 2029 in a privately-funded bowling center on land being made available at Disney's Wide World of Sports complex in Osceola County, Fla.

The agreement begins with the 2011 Open Championships. The Open will be held every three years after that through 2029. The first Women's Championships will be in 2013 and held every three years through 2028.

"USBC is proud to bring two of the world's largest participatory sporting events to Osceola County," said USBC Vice President of Tournaments and Events Jack Mordini. "USBC's partnership with Osceola County, Disney Sports Enterprises, the Central Florida Sports Commission and the developer will bring hundreds of thousands of participants and visitors to Central Florida who will enjoy the many amenities and attractions the area has to offer. This is one of the greatest announcements in the bowling industry since the invention of the automatic pinsetter."

Each tournament will run for approximately 20 weeks and is expected to draw tens of thousands of bowlers and spectators. The USBC Open Championship is projected to generate approximately 59,000 room nights per tournament and the Women's Championship is projected to generate approximately 40,000 room nights per tournament for Osceola County. Combined, the tournaments are expected to generate nearly three-quarters of a billion dollars in economic impact for the community over that time period.

"Osceola County is thrilled that this endeavor, nicknamed Project Rolling Rock by the Economic Development Department, has come to fruition. We welcome USBC to our community," said Commissioner Ken Shipley.

The Central Florida Sports Commission worked with the USBC and related parties to develop this opportunity for Osceola County.

"The acquisition of this business is a watershed event for Osceola County. The USBC Championships will be a powerful annuity program for the County for the next 20 years," said John Saboor, president of the Central Florida Sports Commission.

Osceola County was one of five communities under consideration for the 2011 USBC Open Championships. The others were Wichita, Kan.; Tulsa, Okla.; Corpus Christi, Texas; and Reno, Nev.

Walt Disney World Resort is making land available at Disney's Wide World of Sports complex to accommodate the large facility required to host the tournaments. Walt Disney World Resort will work closely with a third-party - to be announced later - to build and operate the privately-funded bowling center.

"We are excited to play a role in making this dream come true," said Ken Potrock, senior vice president of Disney Sports Enterprises. "This project is a reminder of just how much we can accomplish for our community when the public and private sectors work together."

 

[Obi]

here is a copy of the rpess release from 2008, no mention of the public being allowed to use the lanes when there are no competitions going on...

USBC Open/Women's Championships to call Disney World property home

6/9/2008
USBC Open Championships

The United States Bowling Congress announced today it will hold 13 events - seven Open Championships and six Women's Championships - from 2011 through 2029 in a privately-funded bowling center on land being made available at Disney's Wide World of Sports complex in Osceola County, Fla.

The agreement begins with the 2011 Open Championships. The Open will be held every three years after that through 2029. The first Women's Championships will be in 2013 and held every three years through 2028.

"USBC is proud to bring two of the world's largest participatory sporting events to Osceola County," said USBC Vice President of Tournaments and Events Jack Mordini. "USBC's partnership with Osceola County, Disney Sports Enterprises, the Central Florida Sports Commission and the developer will bring hundreds of thousands of participants and visitors to Central Florida who will enjoy the many amenities and attractions the area has to offer. This is one of the greatest announcements in the bowling industry since the invention of the automatic pinsetter."

Each tournament will run for approximately 20 weeks and is expected to draw tens of thousands of bowlers and spectators. The USBC Open Championship is projected to generate approximately 59,000 room nights per tournament and the Women's Championship is projected to generate approximately 40,000 room nights per tournament for Osceola County. Combined, the tournaments are expected to generate nearly three-quarters of a billion dollars in economic impact for the community over that time period.

"Osceola County is thrilled that this endeavor, nicknamed Project Rolling Rock by the Economic Development Department, has come to fruition. We welcome USBC to our community," said Commissioner Ken Shipley.

The Central Florida Sports Commission worked with the USBC and related parties to develop this opportunity for Osceola County.

"The acquisition of this business is a watershed event for Osceola County. The USBC Championships will be a powerful annuity program for the County for the next 20 years," said John Saboor, president of the Central Florida Sports Commission.

Osceola County was one of five communities under consideration for the 2011 USBC Open Championships. The others were Wichita, Kan.; Tulsa, Okla.; Corpus Christi, Texas; and Reno, Nev.

Walt Disney World Resort is making land available at Disney's Wide World of Sports complex to accommodate the large facility required to host the tournaments. Walt Disney World Resort will work closely with a third-party - to be announced later - to build and operate the privately-funded bowling center.

"We are excited to play a role in making this dream come true," said Ken Potrock, senior vice president of Disney Sports Enterprises. "This project is a reminder of just how much we can accomplish for our community when the public and private sectors work together."

this is the announcement i was talking about... they either cancelled from that or put it on the back burner... reno hosted the tournament in 2011, 2012 will be in baton rouge and then the next two years after that will be in reno. 2015 is still up in the air at the moment.

 

[jt04]

this is the announcement i was talking about... they either cancelled from that or put it on the back burner... reno hosted the tournament in 2011, 2012 will be in baton rouge and then the next two years after that will be in reno. 2015 is still up in the air at the moment.

Are the facilities in Reno open to the general public during non-tournament times?

I am pretty sure it was announced that the WWoS facility would be when it was first discussed. I just can't believe they just moth ball such facilities 7 months out of the year. Makes zero sense to do that.

 

[Hakunamatata]

Are the facilities in Reno open to the general public during non-tournament times?

I am pretty sure it was announced that the WWoS facility would be when it was first discussed. I just can't believe they just moth ball such facilities 7 months out of the year. Makes zero sense to do that.

If they were to build a facility like that, they would then target other tournaments as well. College, semi pro, highschool, etc. Disney would never let something sit vacant if they could use it to bring in money.....wait, disregard that last comment. :lookaroun

 

[Obi]

Are the facilities in Reno open to the general public during non-tournament times?

I am pretty sure it was announced that the WWoS facility would be when it was first discussed. I just can't believe they just moth ball such facilities 7 months out of the year. Makes zero sense to do that.

the national bowling stadium in reno is not open for the general public to just go and bowl whenever they want. they hold other tournaments there as well to fill up the other times that the national tournament is not going on. reno has other bowling alleys there for leagues and open play.

now, my guess is that if wdw decides to go ahead with the plans and open a bowling facility at wwos is that it would be mainly for tournament use. for regular open play (just go and take the family to bowl a game or two) that is what the new splitsville in dtd is going to be used for.

 

[Monsterfan99]

If it is inside the WWOS complex, it's competition only.

 

[jt04]

the national bowling stadium in reno is not open for the general public to just go and bowl whenever they want. they hold other tournaments there as well to fill up the other times that the national tournament is not going on. reno has other bowling alleys there for leagues and open play.

now, my guess is that if wdw decides to go ahead with the plans and open a bowling facility at wwos is that it would be mainly for tournament use. for regular open play (just go and take the family to bowl a game or two) that is what the new splitsville in dtd is going to be used for.

That was not my question. I was wondering if they allow the public to bowl when there are no matches. I will check their website.