As soon as they announce guardians to replace Ellen will that signal the end of Epcot as we know it? And will the cause be the lack of imagination by Disney to bring fresh ideas that work with the intent of Epcot?
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Will Epcot be pronounced dead soon?
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copcarguyp71
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I would actually (and I cannot believe I am saying this) welcome GOTG in lieu of the tired, sad, den of ineptitude that UoE has become. Zero upgrades since it's inception. AA's left inoperative, broken section dividers, entire theater cars left in place because they do not work and a finale projection that saw it's best days at the dawn of the new millennium...yes, yes I would welcome this because at least it would show some initiative and love for Futureworld. Misguided? Yes. But at this point I will take misguided attention over none at all.
ShoalFox
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I can go on a thrilling, IP based ride at any park. I can only go on the traveling theater at Epcot. Whatever happened to going to Disney World for unique experiences?
But whose fault was all of that and unless Disney management culture is changed how long will it be before gotg falls into disrepair.
copcarguyp71
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I understand...but this ride has not been unique, new or groundbreaking for 15 years. At least in my opinion. I would prefer a total reload but given the choice between the sad remains of a once great ride and at least something besides a 40 minute air conditioned nap I will take the movie based re theme.
copcarguyp71
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Don't hate the player...hate the game. Vote a non confidence vote by not going and be part of the change. We have not been since 2013 and will not be back until a time when and if they begin to care about substance again.
Yes the moving theatre what a great idea, I was really impressed the first time I saw the technology. How well that fit into the Epcot concept.
mouse_luv
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And this is why we can't have nice things anymore.
So are you saying the addition of Ellen wasn't an upgrade?
I would also like to point out.
Cmdr_Crimson
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Last I checked.....It was Dead since Epcot94......
IanDLBZF
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Does "Michael Eisner" ring a bell? He's the one who got rid of the original Figment and Dreamfinder, and Horizons...
IanDLBZF
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Goofyernmost
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I was a lover of the old EPCOT. I still do have fond memories of it, but, it was like watching an old friend slowly die. Not because they put an IP here or there, but, because except for a few, like us on the boards stuck in 1982, most of society moved on. What was once ground breaking and different became old, boring and something the modern guests did not want to be doing.
So, is this Epcot dying, possible I guess, but, at the same time I don't think so. I think that the new approach will bring life back to the old girl. Not the way we remember it, but, since the mid 90's we have been the minority. I think it is about to flourish again. Not to my liking, but, to the majority. Time will tell.
I was watching Willy Wonka and TV yesterday and when it got to the area with the song... "Pure Imagination" all I could think of was how much I wished the Disney owned that IP because the possibilities for the Imagination Pavilion are massive. The scenery, the boat ride down the chocolate river, the Wonka Mobile ride and the Glass Elevator possibility. But, they don't so we have a ghost pavilion with real ghosts as opposed to the Haunted Mansion with the grim, grinning ghosts. No one is grinning in the Imagination Pavilion anymore.
So, is this Epcot dying, possible I guess, but, at the same time I don't think so. I think that the new approach will bring life back to the old girl. Not the way we remember it, but, since the mid 90's we have been the minority. I think it is about to flourish again. Not to my liking, but, to the majority. Time will tell.
I was watching Willy Wonka and TV yesterday and when it got to the area with the song... "Pure Imagination" all I could think of was how much I wished the Disney owned that IP because the possibilities for the Imagination Pavilion are massive. The scenery, the boat ride down the chocolate river, the Wonka Mobile ride and the Glass Elevator possibility. But, they don't so we have a ghost pavilion with real ghosts as opposed to the Haunted Mansion with the grim, grinning ghosts. No one is grinning in the Imagination Pavilion anymore.
To be fair, I actually like the changes. It's new different and makes me want to see it and experience it before I "condemn" it.
copcarguyp71
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well yeah....in 1996...20 years ago...before the dawning of the new millennium as I said. So I guess I did mis speak when I said zero upgrades...because my finite memory over writes ever 15 years LOL.
S 2
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I miss Horizons...
rob0519
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Part of the problem here, is the business climate in the country changed drastically. The Epcot people miss was highly subsidized and sponsored by external business partners. Nearly every attraction in Epcot was "Insert Attraction Name Here" sponsored by "Insert Business Partner Name Here".
As the influence of Wall Street grew and the only thing that suddenly mattered to corporations are meeting Quarterly Estimates generated by people sitting in New York and Share Price. There was no more money for partnering with the likes of Disney. Technology is moving much more quickly than in past decades. In the three years it would take Disney to build the attraction, the technology would be commonplace or at least the information would be available on the internet. Additionally, Disney doesn't appear to really care about keeping up the attractions they already have. It's now about bringing people through the gate anyway possible and seeing them another Tshirt.
It's just my opinion, but I doubt we will ever see quality educational attractions in the future.