Why does it seem so many people dislike DCA?

DonaldDuck

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I live over on the east coast and have been to WDW five times. I haven't been out to CA yet, so I've never been to Disneyland. I've heard good comments about DCA, but I've also heard many more negative things about the park.

I've always wondered why so many people dislike DCA. Is the park bad, or are the rides no good??? I've heard good things about Soarin' and I'm happy that it might be coming to WDW.
 

Merlin

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I can't speak for others, but I can give you my OWN assessment and theorize as to why others may feel the same way...

One thing I can say for DCA is that it is a truly pretty park. On my first few visits there, I had much more fun just walking around taking pictures than I did visiting the attractions themselves. I also think that placing a Disney hotel adjacent to the park and with it's own entrance was a very innovative move.

I think the disappointment many people feel about DCA (myself included) pertains to expectations. For example, the signature attraction of the park is Soarin'. It is the type of attraction that you'd probably be impressed with if it was one of those motion simulator attractions at a mall somewhere. But as a Disney attraction, I frankly just don't get it. People rant and rave about it as the best attraction in the park and I personally think that says a lot about the park. If this attraction were in any other Disney park, I think people would be reacting differently to it. When they build it at Epcot, they'd better make improvements or I don't think it will be as well received (just my opinion).

The other big attraction is California Screamin'. There's a dilemma with putting this type of ride in a Disney park. First, it kind of breaks some of the traditional "rules" of Disney attractions, in that it has no themeing and is basically just another roller coaster. Sure, it is a steel coaster designed to look like a wooden one, but contrary to what you'll read, that's not the first time this has been done (Cedar Point has a ride called Gemini which is the same concept). Also, many Disney purists object to this type of ride because it is contrary to what Walt would have wanted in a Disney park. His whole point in getting into the theme park business was to create something different from what you could see at your basic amusement parks. DCA is the first and only Disney park to deviate from that philosophy. The other side of the dilemma about California Screamin' is that it is not exactly a huge hit with coaster buffs. As coasters go, it is a fairly benign and dull ride. Disney excels at THEMEING their rides and attractions. They should stick to what they're good at and what they do better than anyone else, instead of trying to compete in a market segment that is so clearly dominated by Six Flags and others.

Another problem with DCA is that a lot of the attractions are just off-the-shelf amusement rides. As stated before, what sets Disney apart from other parks is that you can see and experience things you can get elsewhere. People who support DCA will make every excuse in the book to justify the existence of these off-the-shelf attractions, but the park's attendance record really says it all...clearly putting these attractions in was not a wise move because they haven't exactly brought the crowds into the park.

Yet another problem is the lack of attractions that aren't simply copycats from WDW. And with the exception of Tower of Terror, which hasn't opened yet, the copycats they chose to make aren't exactly major ones.

The combination of amusement rides and WDW knock-offs leads to another problem I think a lot of people have with DCA...resentment toward Disney management for thinking we're all idiots. By building a park without a whole lot of originality and then filling it mostly with shops, restaurants and a handful of duplicate attractions, the Disney Company seemed to be saying, "We know we can totally skimp on this park because you'll still pay to get in since it has the Disney name on it. We'll just sit back and watch the profits roll in! Muhahahahahahaaaaaa!!"

Lastly, I think a lot of people have a problem with the theme itself. Before the park even opened, scores of newspaper and magazine articles speculated that no one would pay to get into a park about California when they were immersed in the real thing. But Disney seems to have essentially abandoned that theme anyway. Most of the attractions in the park have little or nothing to do with California (i.e. What the heck does "Who Wants to Be a Millionaire" have to do with California?? Isn't the game show itself filmed in New York??? What about A Bug's Land?? Are they trying to say bugs are somehow unique to, or representative of, California??). Consequently, the park seems to have no clear direction. Frankly that makes the park no different than a Six Flags or other non-Disney park. Disney parks have always been about having a clear theme, and then doing some incredibly creative things with that theme. DCA just seems to be sporadically put together.

Those are my personal thoughts. Does that help?
 

WDWspider

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Merlin - Fantastic. You have sumed up many many aspects into one simple to read and understand post. I think one thing that makes all the problems you listed that much worse is the fact that this is DISNEYLAND, the place it started. IF EVER there was to be a second park next to the original it should have been Gangbusters in every aspect of what is Disney Magic. Now they are stuck though, I do see DCA improving leaps and bounds- but given the state of the park I suppose that is not so hard to do.
 

3IdAlienKid

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Merlin, I've read your DCA related comments from time to time and always agree with you.

If I didn't have my annual pass and had to pay 1-day admission, $47 just isn't worth it. I'd say it's more worth $30-$35. They even open later and close earlier than Disneyland on any given day including weekends.
 

DisneyFan 2000

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Originally posted by DonaldDuck
I live over on the east coast and have been to WDW five times. I haven't been out to CA yet, so I've never been to Disneyland. I've heard good comments about DCA, but I've also heard many more negative things about the park.

I've always wondered why so many people dislike DCA. Is the park bad, or are the rides no good??? I've heard good things about Soarin' and I'm happy that it might be coming to WDW.

I actually love DCA! Although i've never been there i've seen enough pictures!:D

The idea is great (although it doesn't connect directly to california) but it has very nice rides! Some would say these are carnival rides but still, alot of thought was put into the park! But i still think it can improve but ToT is a great start!

I think people do not like the park because of the standards Disney has! Sure it could be better but I still think the place is worth a visit! You will see that over the years Disney will make this yet another great park! But overall I like this park very much! (By the way the Paradise Pear theme is beautiful IMO)
 

xfkirsten

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I personally love DCA! I agree, that if I had to buy a one-day ticket, it would be for Disneyland Park hands down. However, I find myself more and more attracted to DCA. It has a very different feel than DL, and I think that turns a lot of people off. And I totally agree that Paradise Pier in general lacks that theming that sets Disney apart from other theme parks. That being said, that doesn't make me enjoy Screamin' any less! Soarin' is my absolute favorite ride at DCA. Aladdin is probably the best theme park show I've seen next to Fantasmic. And i can't leave out the Electrical Parade!

To me, DCA started out kinda boring, but with the new additions, it's definitely growing on me. And I'm excited to see ToT next year!

-Kirsten
 

Abercrombie Kid

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Disney California Adventure is disliked for many different aspects. Many guests feel that the park is filled with too many off the shelf or cloned attractions that don't give us the Disney magic we all want. Other complaints is the theme of a park about Cali. in Cali. Other reasons can relate to not immersive enough themeing, some weak shows, and no fireworks/nighttime spetacular that is really new and exciting. For some their dislike for DCA is all rooted in the dream that was/is WESTCOT. DCA is certainly not a bad park, and contrary to what others are saying it really has some magical disney areas, but some areas are weak and that combined with the general rushed feel of the park has helped put it on the least favortite Disney theme park.
 

CHAPPS

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DCA is just really a sad park, plain and simple. A lot of people WANT to like it because it is Disney and they feel a sense of loyalty to support it because of that. Even those who try and defend it almost always say, "It will improve with age". But that says nothing for how it is RIGHT NOW. I really think Disney simply missed the boat with this one. I don't know what they were thinking. Even the California theme had so much potential and they've done virtually nothing with that theme. They shouldn't even call it California Adventure. Imagine, for example, if Frontierland had Space Mountain, the Matterhorn and Roger Rabbit in it. Obviously we'd say those were really bad choices for a land that was supposed to be about the frontier days. That's about how badly California Adventure is themed. To make matters worse, most of the rides are things that you could see anywhere. So who's going to plan a vacation around visiting this park? It also makes no sense that they charge the same admission price as Disneyland. It would be like having a brand new BMW and a brand new Hyundai right next to each other and charging the same price for both.
 

Michael72688

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Well I would really like the rides, I just wish Disney would build a park just like DCA here in Orlando, maybe to compete with the biggest rival, Islands of Adventure!
 

Merlin

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Originally posted by Michael72688
Well I would really like the rides, I just wish Disney would build a park just like DCA here in Orlando, maybe to compete with the biggest rival, Islands of Adventure!

To say that DCA would be competition for Islands of Adventure would be laughable. IOA has some impressive, hi-tech attractions such as Spiderman. DCA's signature attraction (Soarin') doesn't even come close. Also, their coasters, Hulk and Dueling Dragons (which are unique in the world) blow California Screamin' out of the water.
 

Merlin

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Originally posted by grizzlyhall
If I can recall, both Spiderman AND Dueling Dragons were originall conceived ideas/designs by WDI. . .:lookaroun


I believe you are correct. And that is what I find so humorous a lot of the time. People are so quick to put down IOA, but what they don't realize is that they are ultimately putting down Disney by doing so. After all, much of IOA was designed by the SAME people who designed some of our favorite Disney attractions!! For some, it seems to boil down to this: "If it sits on Disney property, then I don't care if it's just a cheap ripoff of a carnival ride (i.e. about 75% of DCA), I'll still say it's the greatest. But if it is NOT on Disney property, then I'll ignore it's innovation and creativity and say that it sucks!"
 

DisneyFan 2000

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Originally posted by Merlin
I believe you are correct. And that is what I find so humorous a lot of the time. People are so quick to put down IOA, but what they don't realize is that they are ultimately putting down Disney by doing so. After all, much of IOA was designed by the SAME people who designed some of our favorite Disney attractions!! For some, it seems to boil down to this: "If it sits on Disney property, then I don't care if it's just a cheap ripoff of a carnival ride (i.e. about 75% of DCA), I'll still say it's the greatest. But if it is NOT on Disney property, then I'll ignore it's innovation and creativity and say that it sucks!"

Well said Merlin! Universal knows how to create a good ride not just Disney!

I get so annoyed when people make comments like that! "If it was to be on disney property it would've been great!"

(Although I still like DCA and think it's going the right way)
 

UKColinR

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I hope they dont ever decide to do a French Adventure in Paris, I am sure that would go down like a tonne of bricks with the British LOL :)

Colin
 

DisneyFan 2000

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I think when people come visit countries they will tour them if they'll go to Disney or not! I think a __________ (country) adventure park is a bad decision (attendence proof is DCA)....

I also think people come to take a break from the outside world and when the world is put in people don't like it! (an exception is epcot)

Things such as Disney Seas is a good decision!

Remember, this is my opinion so don't shoot!

:lookaroun :lookaroun
 

grandmath

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I must say that I love DCA! Actually I live near Disneyland Resort Paris, and I have visited WDW many times, so I think I know what is Disney quality.

Th problem here is that the theme is not appealing to Californians, as they live there everyday. I wouldn't like a "Disney France Adventure" that would represent the sights and sounds of my country. BUT, I am sure DCA would have been a hit in France (or some parts of it), because it represents a spirit and show you places that we don't have here, and that makes you dream! A classic boardwalk, desert fields, lush landscapes and mountains, Hollywood... I truly like the "fun" and "holiday" feel of the park when I enter it...very different from Disneyland, more fresh, more actual...but a very cool place!!! (and great attractions: aladdin, animation tour, grizzly river run, soarin, california scremain, soon to open TOT....)
 

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